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Colin Cowherd is a morning sports radio host. His show is unlistenable. He repeats the same fucking point over and over again. He makes Jim Rome seem like a guy spontaneously composing a chorus-free national anthem. When Cowherd was on in Denver, the bulk of his show consisted of his attempts to seem relevant to one of his producers, who is a much-younger woman with a hot voice. You might think it's sad to see this in real life, though it happens all the time. You'll shove nails into your eardrums to escape hearing it daily on the radio.

Cowherd hates sports blogs because you can get infinitely better information from them than ESPN or CNNSI.com. Actually, who the fuck knows why. The guy doesn't have any talent, so stunts like this is all he has left. He tried to get his listeners to take down a website called www.thebiglead.com recently. It worked for a while, but now The Big Lead is back up.

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Steve Phillips is a one-time failure of a general manager for the New York Mets. He has become a baseball analyst. I don't really watch ESPN any more and we no longer have a radio station affiliated with ESPN Radio out here, so I no longer have this stupid cretin's opinions invading my life. Steve Phillips and I disagree on everything I've ever heard him say. The last time I remember his name coming up was during the World Baseball Championship. Some people were protesting the fact that Cuba is an oppressive regime that isn't big on human rights. You know, that sort of thing. Phillips took fucking Cuba's side.

These two people sort of came together today, as The Big Lead had an interview with Mike Vaccaro of the NY Post today -- something I would have never found, had Cowherd not desperately tried to, I don't know, break the Internet or something. That being said: is [ulr=http://thebiglead.com/?p=2091#more-2091]this[/url] the state of sports "blogs" these days? Because the interview is amazing. It's immediately the best piece of sportswriting I've seen in a year. Sports have suddenly become interesting again.

Vaccaro had the following answer to a question about assholes in sports:
Q: We’re fascinated when athletes are dicks to sportswriters. Any athletes step to you? Blow their nose on your sleeve? Attack you, Raul Mondesi-style?

The ugliest incident I ever took part in happened in the Mets clubhouse in Miller Park in Milwaukee a few years ago. This was when the Mets had Roberto Alomar and Mo Vaughn, that group. I’d been in Milwaukee covering a Nets-Bucks playoff series and my boss suggested I stay the weekend because the Mets were falling apart already and it was only May. So I did. And in the Saturday paper I wrote a column that basically said the Mets weren’t just a lousy team, they were one of the most impossible-to-like teams New York had seen since … well, since the last time the Mets had gotten a bunch of stooges in the Bobby Bo/Vince Coleman era. In the column I’d been especially critical of the GM, Steve Phillips, whom I never thought very highly of and had occasionally been somewhat vicious in saying so.

Well, Phillips blew his stack, and he had the PR guy, Jay Horwitz, bring me into an office off the clubhouse, made sure he kept the door open and started to curse me at the top of his lungs, a show that was clearly designed to make him look like a tough-guy in front of his players and an act that, to me, is the height of insecure foolishness. I let him rant and rant and rant. Finally he said, “My wife read that piece of junk! You made her cry!” After which I’d had enough and said, “That makes two of us, doesn’t it Steve,” a not-terribly-subtle reference to his past life as an admitted adulterer. I thought he was going to take a swing at me. He didn’t. About two weeks later he was fired.
Ha ha ha! I know when it looks like I'm going to be fired, I bring some newspaper writer in and yell at them. That always works.

(Having Alomar as part of that unlikeable Mets team is also fantastic. As a Jays fan, let me tell you that I can't wait to live in a reality where this weeping little prissy-assed, ump-spitting bitch is our first representative into the Baseball Hall of Fame. He'll be the first guy so honored in the Era of Me Following Sports. I'll be buying the Cooperstown Commemorative Spittoon honoring his induction, no doubt.)
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Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:Colin Cowherd is a morning sports radio host. His show is unlistenable.
This is true, though I listened to many a-show before I realized it. Actually, the only reason I listened was that he was better than Mancow.
He repeats the same fucking point over and over again. He makes Jim Rome seem like a guy spontaneously composing a chorus-free national anthem.
Hullarious!
When Cowherd was on in Denver, the bulk of his show consisted of his attempts to seem relevant to one of his producers, who is a much-younger woman with a hot voice. You might think it's sad to see this in real life, though it happens all the time. You'll shove nails into your eardrums to escape hearing it daily on the radio.
This was why his show was bad. If he was just Wacky Sports Host, it would be okay, but he is trying to be Wacky Sports Host Crossed With Tom Leykis, and as anyone with functioning ears knows, anything even remotely associated with Tom Leykis is an unmitigated, embarrassing, horrendous disaster of Ruby Tuesday's Monster Burger proportions.


(then you said a whole bunch of other stuff that I skipped because I'm the funniest man on the internet and don't have time for this)
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Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:Colin Cowherd is a morning sports radio host. His show is unlistenable.
This is true, though I listened to many a-show before I realized it. Actually, the only reason I listened was that he was better than Mancow.
You are absolutely correct. You can listen to one Colin Cowherd show and think, "This isn't so bad." And honestly, if Tony Bruno wasn't on in Denver, if instead the sports radio dial just played static, I would not have noticed just how much better Bruno was than this guy.

But he's there, and that's that.

This was why his show was bad. If he was just Wacky Sports Host, it would be okay, but he is trying to be Wacky Sports Host Crossed With Tom Leykis, and as anyone with functioning ears knows, anything even remotely associated with Tom Leykis is an unmitigated, embarrassing, horrendous disaster of Ruby Tuesday's Monster Burger proportions.
I seek knowledge - tell me of this "Ruby Tuesday's Monster Burger."

Additionally, something I forgot to say in my first post in this thread: I would shed a testicle for someone I agitated through writing to leave a line like, "You made my wife cry" hanging out in empty air like that. If I had that opportunity my fucking eyeballs would dilate. What Phillips was thinking, giving that kind of ammunition to a professional writer we may never, truly know.
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I seek knowledge - tell me of this "Ruby Tuesday's Monster Burger."
My "bad". It's actually called the "Ultimate Colossal Burger".

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pinback wrote:
I seek knowledge - tell me of this "Ruby Tuesday's Monster Burger."
My "bad". It's actually called the "Ultimate Colossal Burger".
I think I speak for my arteries when I say, "Holy Fucking Shit".

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It looks like they sort of cheat you on the fries, though.

"Hey, where's the rest of my fries?!" is what I'd be all if they served me that.

I'd be all that.
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You guys, it's threads like this that really cement why I love this place. At any point, a barfment of food can be imaged in-lined that would be perfectly in place drinking some Tenafly Viper.
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pinback wrote:It looks like they sort of cheat you on the fries, though.

"Hey, where's the rest of my fries?!" is what I'd be all if they served me that.

I'd be all that.
Bwa-ha-ha-ha!!!

I'm guessing that each store was assigned one dollop of cole slaw for those monsters and they just passed the thing on, uneaten, for the duration of the promotion.
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Don't even get me started on food again, Ruby Tuesday is where chefs go to work after they have been fired by Red Robin.
Sports talk radio has been neutured. They all say the same thing now. Listen to that idiot Mike Greenberg from "Mike and Mike", he thinks he is the morality sheriff of the sports world. I found this funny though-
"Mike and Mike" have this stupid thing where they talk about MANNING UP and man laws, two guys trying to harken back to caveman days of men being men or something. So one morning Greenberg sees Golic wearing a pink shirt and says he his "womaning down" instead of manning up" ZING good one Greenberg. After their next commercial break Greenberg apologized for the comment like he just raped an entire lacrosse team. It was about the saddest thing I ever heard, especialy since his voice sounds like Peter Bradys in the puberty episode.

I can no longer listen to sports talk radio as the state is just miseable. "Men" like Jim Rome who pretend to talk shit and then just turn into the PC police when an offhand remark about the Manbeasts of the Rutgers basketball team are made fun of. So I took a turn around the dial and found....

The Stephanie Miller Show!- You gotta hand it to Air America, they found the one person whose voice could cause more seizures than Mary Harts. this show consits of (I think) Stephanie Miller and two men one of which may be a clone of the other. Stephanie spends he entire show sighing and saying Dear God, taking every single liberal party line position and laughing at her own jokes. The two men are just the angriest two idiots in the world and just mutter under their breath since Stephanie had their testicles removed. They also laugh uncontrolably at every sentance Ms. Miller struggles to complete without adding an "oh dear". It is the single worst thing I ever heard on the radio in my entire life.
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So now I just listen to WBER during the day and the Opie and Anthony rerun at 2pm. I hated those guys at first because Opie only talks about how great their ratings are but Anthony and the Jim Norton/Patrice O'neal combo are as good as it gets. Plus they pretty much spent 3 days on how Al Sharpton is the biggest piece of garbage on the planet.
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Knuckles the CLown wrote:I hated those guys at first because Opie only talks about how great their ratings are but Anthony and the Jim Norton/Patrice O'neal combo are as good as it gets. Plus they pretty much spent 3 days on how Al Sharpton is the biggest piece of garbage on the planet.
Our dearly departed Patrice O'Neal. :(

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Another one regarding Patrice and Gallagher:

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I just listened to that entire thing while I was sitting here writing. I think I lost it about the time they were talking about Gallagher smashing black babies with the Sledge-o-matic.
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Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:You are absolutely correct. You can listen to one Colin Cowherd show and think, "This isn't so bad." And honestly, if Tony Bruno wasn't on in Denver, if instead the sports radio dial just played static, I would not have noticed just how much better Bruno was than this guy.
My dear late friend Andrea who lived in Lakewood, said that Denver was basically a cow town with skyscrapers, I'm thinking she meant it wasn't much advanced from when the Colorado Territory was admitted as a state during the U.S. Centennial, 135 years ago.

She mentioned how difficult it was to find a decent doctor there. I pointed out that really good doctors, the ones that can make a fortune because they're really good, gravitate to New York or Los Angeles. The slightly better ones stay on the right and left coast, and most of the lesser ones travel inland because of the stiff competition in major East- and West-Coast cities. There are occasional exceptions, the late Dr. Nolen, the author of The Making of a Surgeon decided to move to rural Minnesota (when the book was written in the late 1960s/early 1970s) because of the small-town environment instead of, say, trying to set up practice in New York City where he interned at Bellevue Hospital. As a surgeon in an underserved area, he doesn't have to work that hard and makes a very good living, plus the cost of living is lower and for excitement he and his wife can drive a couple hours to see plays and movies in Minneapolis.

One example Dr. Nolen gave was how a guy who was an otherwise fine doctor got a score on the licensing exam that was two points too low, but he knew some people on the medical board and they gave him his license. Then they have a problem. Some other guy, almost a butcher in terms of his incompetence, got the exact same score as the first guy. Well, if this guy doesn't get a license, it will look like exactly what it was with the first guy: favoritism. So they have no choice, they have to give the second guy a license. Dr. Nolen said in his book how he shudders every time he thinks about the patients that this guy has been unleashed upon.

I know I've heard a number of companies moved out of the Denver area to other places specifically because they could not find the highly-technical people they needed.
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Doctors don't just gravitate toward New York and LA. They're not entertainment lawyers. They gravitate toward major academic medical centers. So, yes, NY and LA. But also St. Louis, Seattle, Houston, Atlanta, even Central North Carolina.

And yes, Colin Cowherd is unlistenable, bordering on human rights abuse.

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Tdarcos wrote:My dear late friend Andrea who lived in Lakewood, said that Denver was basically a cow town with skyscrapers, I'm thinking she meant it wasn't much advanced from when the Colorado Territory was admitted as a state during the U.S. Centennial, 135 years ago.
I don't think this is really the case in 2012, but sure, I could see it for much of the 20th century.

She mentioned how difficult it was to find a decent doctor there. I pointed out that really good doctors, the ones that can make a fortune because they're really good, gravitate to New York or Los Angeles.
I guess? I had my ACL repaired by a really good doctor, and the one who tells me I am too fat and need to lose weight is also awesome. So I certainly haven't had any trouble finding a good doctor. I'm also not fighting asshole cancer, either.

The slightly better ones stay on the right and left coast, and most of the lesser ones travel inland because of the stiff competition in major East- and West-Coast cities.
Well, in my opinion you'd have to be a sick psychopath or have family to live in either of those two cities, so I guess it takes all kinds.

Some other guy, almost a butcher in terms of his incompetence, got the exact same score as the first guy. Well, if this guy doesn't get a license, it will look like exactly what it was with the first guy: favoritism.
Give them both licences.... butcher's licenses!!!

So they have no choice, they have to give the second guy a license. Dr. Nolen said in his book how he shudders every time he thinks about the patients that this guy has been unleashed upon.
This guy can't get better? He was two points away from being considered expertly competent, right? (I am not arguing with you on any point, by the way, Paul -- I am just talking in general.)

Plus, it seems like if there were a surgeon who had everything else down but the surgery, he could get into management or something similar.

I know I've heard a number of companies moved out of the Denver area to other places specifically because they could not find the highly-technical people they needed.
I think word has gotten out how beautiful it is, though. That being said, my company IS having a bit of trouble finding competent programmers. We are getting a lot of people going to coding interviews who simply can not/will not code. Dunno if that is a Denver thing a "my company" thing or an industry thing.
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Tdarcos wrote:She mentioned how difficult it was to find a decent doctor there. I pointed out that really good doctors, the ones that can make a fortune because they're really good, gravitate to New York or Los Angeles.
I guess? I had my ACL repaired by a really good doctor, and the one who tells me I am too fat and need to lose weight is also awesome. So I certainly haven't had any trouble finding a good doctor. I'm also not fighting asshole cancer, either.
Looking at what I said, I realize that I should have said "how difficult it was to find a decent doctor who will respect that when a female patient mentions she has a problem, will not dismiss her complaints as hysteria there."

A man complains he has a serious pain in his chest, a doctor gets very concerned and wants to do tests. A woman says she has a serious pain in her chest,the doctor says she's overreacting.

Andrea told me you could basically summarize almost every doctor's response to her complaining about digestive problems, back pain (to the point she had to take morphine until she started getting steroid injections in her spine), and other problems: "You're too fat."

She points out that she was a DES daughter (was born to a woman who took the drug DES during the pregnancy of their conception), and it didn't ring any alarms. (DES fucked up a lot of people who were conceived by women who took it during pregnancy).

This includes women doctors as well. Doctors, in general [that she found in the Denver area] tend to take mens' health issues very seriously, and tend to undertreat or often dismiss women's problems, or just immediately presume giving her a pill to shut her up was the answer.

Andrea told me at one point she had a bottle of pills she had been given prescriptions for but didn't take because the side effects were horrible, did nothing for her, didn't fix the problems or just plain were unnecessary to solve her medical problems. You know those 5 gallon bottles they ship water in? She filled one of those in just two years, and once she filled it (just for demonstration purposes) she would throw the rest away.
The slightly better ones stay on the right and left coast, and most of the lesser ones travel inland because of the stiff competition in major East- and West-Coast cities.
Well, in my opinion you'd have to be a sick psychopath or have family to live in either of those two cities, so I guess it takes all kinds.
Oh please. I used to live in Los Angeles County for 15 years and my sister lived in New York for years. There are definite advantages to large cities. New York is a massive city, and thus you can find almost anything there. Plays, entertainment, social interaction, and I suppose if you go that way, the various illicit pleasures including recreational drugs and rentable women.

A lot of people like Southern California because of the fact it doesn't really have weather, it has climate. Here in Maryland, if it gets to 20 or 30 degrees during the winter, you put on warm clothing and a thick coat, and no one says otherwise, the newscasts just report it as straight weather news.

In Southern California, if it gets to 50 degrees they talk about a spell of really bad weather and unseasonable cold.

But the fact remains it's the exact opposite. A sociopath (the current term being used for psychopath) has either almost no concern or no concern about other people, no empathy. A person would very likely live in those cities because they like crowded cities and places to get lots of interaction.

Your typical psychopath is a loner or avoids other people, they tend to have problems with human interaction. You don't choose to move to or live in a major city if you don't want human interaction (unless you can't afford to move). Ted Kazinski lived in a shack when he was the Unibomber. Timothy McVeigh was mostly a loner who lived in rural areas and apparently had a lot of trouble making friends.
So they have no choice, they have to give the second guy a license. Dr. Nolen said in his book how he shudders every time he thinks about the patients that this guy has been unleashed upon.
This guy can't get better? He was two points away from being considered expertly competent, right? (I am not arguing with you on any point, by the way, Paul -- I am just talking in general.)
No, reread what I said. He was two points below the minimum considered necessary to at least be minimally competent to get a license. Consider this, for most people, getting a license to drive is about as difficult as getting wet in a rainstorm, it's not that hard. But consider how bad someone might be as a driver if they were ten points below the minimum to get a drivers' license. (I'm using ten points here since the medical exam is much more difficult by comparison.)
I know I've heard a number of companies moved out of the Denver area to other places specifically because they could not find the highly-technical people they needed.
I think word has gotten out how beautiful it is, though. That being said, my company IS having a bit of trouble finding competent programmers. We are getting a lot of people going to coding interviews who simply can not/will not code. Dunno if that is a Denver thing a "my company" thing or an industry thing.
I sometimes wish I had moved out to Denver when I first moved out four years ago. Andrea, unfortunately, had a boyfriend so that wasn't a choice (she admitted she's not the type to see someone else if she's involved with someone.) When I could walk, I looked for work lots of places, it was very difficult even getting an interview for places that wanted programmers. (Big problem here: a lot of places require you have a security clearance.)
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Tdarcos wrote:Looking at what I said, I realize that I should have said "how difficult it was to find a decent doctor who will respect that when a female patient mentions she has a problem, will not dismiss her complaints as hysteria there."
I am sorry that your friend had a difficult time finding a doctor, but I'm glad she went around to a few different ones.

Look, it's not that great elsewhere in the country, though. I understand that they made a disc jockey named Johnny Fever a doctor somewhere in Ohio. How many points do you think he missed passing his exam over?

This includes women doctors as well. Doctors, in general [that she found in the Denver area] tend to take mens' health issues very seriously, and tend to undertreat or often dismiss women's problems, or just immediately presume giving her a pill to shut her up was the answer.
Argh! This is frustrating because I had a lot of trouble getting some shut up pills from doctors. Well, until I got a toothache, natch.

You know those 5 gallon bottles they ship water in?
Ye- No!
Well, in my opinion you'd have to be a sick psychopath or have family to live in either of those two cities, so I guess it takes all kinds.
Oh please. I used to live in Los Angeles County for 15 years and my sister lived in New York for years.
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No, reread what I said. He was two points below the minimum considered necessary to at least be minimally competent to get a license.
I understand! What I'm saying is that it's awful presumptuous of those maggots to assume that Dr. Butcher can't get BETTER as a doctor. They were right to wave him through, and I applaud their efforts in doing so.

I sometimes wish I had moved out to Denver when I first moved out four years ago.
Me too, buddy. Well, except for the terrible things you said about savvyraven. That's a bit of a sticking point.
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