Jerkwads at Sony put rootkits into their DRM!

Lysander · Post by **Lysander** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:54 pm

http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/1 ... ights.html

Great, Sony. Just great. Now thanks to your foisting your shitty copy protection that sucks and no one wants you're making it child's play for a 10-year-old to make a virus that cannot be removed by, really, any program on the market. Way to make me want to buy your (shitty, low-budget and knockoff) products there. Fucktards.

AArdvark · Post by **AArdvark** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:21 am

Great. It's probably already in half of the machines out there now and nobody knows it.

Something else to mess with.

THE
AWAKE AT NIGHT
AARDVARK

co · Post by co » Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:52 pm

That's what the fuckheads get for paying for music.

Lysander · Post by **Lysander** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:00 pm

http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/ ... ed_cd.html

It is, apparently, more important to Sony that you not use Itunes than it is for you to not copy their discs. Strike two.

Remind me to never buy a PS3.

You only get two strikes in my game.

Lysander · Post by **Lysander** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:02 pm

co wrote:That's what the fuckheads get for paying for music.

CO, jsut to clarify, when you find music by an artist that you like, do you send the band a five dollar bill, which is more money than tehy get off of the purchase of a single CD anyway? Just a little token of appreciation, that costs a third or fourth the cost of the actual CD, that all goes directly to the artists that made it and deserve your money?

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:02 pm

If you want to give an artist money, go see them in concert. Paying for this shit just doesn't work. At some point it became perfectly legal for people to install whatever the hell they want on your PC and I personally trust the "pirates" more than I do the record industry and game publishers.

I've never paid for a Children of Bodom CD, for instance, but on November 18th I'll have seen them for the third time. I'm "supporting the band."

Hey, the publishers started this shit. When I realized that I couldn't rip Shitty Songs of the 80s and listen as MP3s at work from the CD I bought I went onto Direct Connect and got the rip. So everyone was happy!!! I paid the publisher, they didn't let me listen to the thing I bought, I got the music anyway, I didn't have to use the terribly inconvienent process that they expected me to use, which was putting a separate CD player in my office at AMD to freaking have some tunes going.

Only problem was, eventually I realized that I could eliminate the purchasing part of the equation and just burn the rip. Then I got music I could put anywhere I liked.

Same with games. I just bought the horror-adventure game "Obscure." Not only did it require Starforce drivers, but they wanted the disc in the drive and they were going to check for that disc every few seconds. The crack for Obscure eliminates the need for drivers that will BREAK YOUR DVD-ROM in some cases. It eliminates the need for drivers that stop the game from working when you have CD burning software on your PC. I need my CD burning software on my PC. I make computer games and more often I make a disc of fucking music for the three hours I'm in my goddamn car commuting each day. It makes me fucking angry just thinking about it. A game publisher would rather I go to work in silence or, in what isn't an alternative to silence at all, through AM/FM radio... because their game is so precious!

It's our computer, not theirs, and fuck them for thinking otherwise. You guys want to talk about warez and ripping music and serial codes and all that shit go right ahead. I don't care. Nobody comes here these days anyway, so I don't feel there's game developers who are going to be offended if we state where we got a no CD key -- if that's going to cause some lurkers to get a butt up their ass, well, they could have helped out in the last six months where there wasn't shit to talk about on JC.

Great article, Lysander. I feel slightly like it "couldn't happen to me" because the guy bought a music CD that clearly said there was DRM shit on the disc, but I imagine when I scan my system I'll find all sorts of shit on my drive. I AM officially getting a crack for every game I buy from here on out and I doubt I'll bother paying for a computer game if a CD / DRM crack isn't available. The only people actually able to enjoy content created by artists are the "pirates."

Lysander · Post by **Lysander** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:50 pm

Bands don't really make much ca$h off of touring, either. These days it costs a stupid amount of money to tour. What I do is steal the music, then if I like it, mail the guys a 5-dollar bill. That way hte artist gets compensated--more than he would have if I'd just bought his CD, I get my music for the price that it's freaking worth, and the Recording industry's out $10. Serves the rotten fuckers right.

Lysander · Post by **Lysander** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:49 pm

Oh! Yes! And while I'm thinking of it, Sony *haqs* given me a strike three, long ago, when I tried to convert from atrack3 into mp3 so that I could edit some interviews I'd done with it for inclusion on a radio show. I couldn't do it. They wouldn't let me. Watch as I switch to a flash card recorder, you stupid fuckers.

Knuckles the CLown · Post by **Knuckles the CLown** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:36 pm

bullshit, you've never sent a band 5 bucks in your life. Nor should you, why the fuck do bands assume if they are halfway decent they should be compensated like royalty. If I like a band I steal all their music and piss on them. Every time I write a post somebody enjoys do I stick my hand out??

I don't go to concerts or live sporting events anymore. What a fucking rip off. The little money I have is going to enough greedy corporations and assholes that I don't need to plop down $45 bucks to be entertained for two hours.

I won't even go to a strip club unless it's one of those ones where you can grab tits or get blowjobs. That's another thing I'm done paying for- the $20 hands to yourself lap dance. I require goods and services for my money. Entertainment is free is my book.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:38 pm

Knuckles the CLown wrote:Every time I write a post somebody enjoys do I stick my hand out??

Your hand?

No.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:17 pm

Hahah, good one, Pinner!!

Lysander · Post by **Lysander** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:49 pm

Knuckles the Clown wrote:Every time I write a post somebody enjoys do I stick my hand out??

I am a big believer in people getting what they deserve. As such, bands deserve payment for the music they spend upwards of a million dollars making, and you deserve nothing for the 0 dollars you spent writing that worst post on a BBS ever.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:03 pm

Upon retrospect, I'm coming out on the side of murder, as well. Think of JC as your one-stop-shoppe for murder discussions!

CO · Post by CO » Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:10 am

Lysander wrote:CO, jsut to clarify, when you find music by an artist that you like, do you send the band a five dollar bill, which is more money than tehy get off of the purchase of a single CD anyway? Just a little token of appreciation, that costs a third or fourth the cost of the actual CD, that all goes directly to the artists that made it and deserve your money?

Truthfully, in the last ten years or so that it's been possible to download mp3's I have not found any new music that I've cared enough about to support the artists for. I mostly download stuff which I paid for time and again over a decade ago. Even the new stuff from bands I like isn't all that notable, for example I loved Rage against the Machine but could care less about Audioslave (probably because I don't like the guy from soundgarden). For driving in the car, I like to download hiphop and shit like that, but again I've already supported the guys I really like by buying their cd's years ago. I don't give a shit if 50 cent needs more ammo for his guns, I'm not going to support him unless I end up at a concert.

I love how the recording industy raped the consumer for years by making us replace our entire collections whenever technology changed. When we had no choice it was all about purchasing the hunk of plastic that held the music. Need a cd instead of a record or tape for music you've already paid for? Fuck you, pay again. Now that we can take the shit, they are crying about their intellectual property.

A few things are coming together that I hope will make some differences in the trainwreck that is the fucking recording industry. Technology is evening out the playing field. Spitzer has taken on payola which made it easier for the labels to shovel the shit down our throats. Consumers are more and more going out and learning about music they like instead of being held hostage by the radio and record stores. People should not be paying for the likes of Britney, Spice Girls, nsynch, etc, etc, etc . . . fuck, most of the stuff out there is utter crap.

AArdvark · Post by **AArdvark** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:38 pm

YEAH! When Tommy Lee Jones said in "Men In Black". 'This will entirely replace CD's. so I'll have to buy the White Album again.' he was making a stinging barb about the RIAA. How may times do I have to pay for the same music on a different medium? Well, I'm done. There's no new music that I want enough to get, even if it is free.

THE
WHURR
NOT
GONNA TAKE
IT
AARDVARK

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:26 pm

There's a follow-up here:

http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/1 ... ernet.html

Hey, what do you know... the guys who wrote the DRM stuff are INCOMPETENT. They don't know what they're doing, they're writing device drivers and they take zero responsibility for being amateurs. Figures.

Just in case we get anyone coming here: http://www.first4internet.com/ is made up of a bunch of fucking retards that I wouldn't let change my system clock, much less how any of my peripherals work. It's obvious they don't know what they're doing, that device driver programming is too difficult for them and that they are WAY in over their heads on this one.

Lysander · Post by **Lysander** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:51 pm

Well, if you don't feel like the artsts your'e getting music from should keep making more music, that's all good, I don't blame you for not wanting to pay for shite music.

But back to the real point of the thread now--my favorit part is that not even the guys who made it can figure out how to take out their crap without permanently fucking up the computer. Yeah, in order to remove it oyu have to fill out a form with oyur email address so they can email you a link to fill out another form so that they can send you the patch that we don't even know works right yet, because no one's managed to get it yet. Oh, and by the way, if you happen to get a sudden increase in tentacle porn spams that has nothing to do with the fact that you've just givven your email address to a Japanese man. It's such bullshit. Here's my impression of Sony's upper management meeting:

Sony: Okay--okay, we need to cover our asses here, they want to be able to remove it when they get rid of the CD, we'd better give it to them or we'll start a riot.
FFI: Er--
Sony: Okay, so you got us into this mess, you get us out of it.
FFI: That's jsut hte thing, we can't.
Sony: ...
FFI: It's hooked into the system so deeply that it's impossible to remove without disabling hte CD drive.
Sony: ....
FFI: We never thoguht to try removing it, I mean, who'd want to remove our lovely software?
Sony: Well you'd better find a way of removing it before I sell your contract to wind-up records, Mister. I'll give you all the time you need by announcing that we have one available, and then giving them the runnaround if they ask for it until you guys can actually make one we can use. Heh heh, I bet we can use this as an excuse to get some extra cash on the side from those horse cock spam lists.
FFI: Isn't that fraud?
Sony: I can't hear y ou. Off with you. Oh, and nameless first-four internet drone?
FFI: Yeah?
Sony: *BLAM* That's for taking notes on a Toshiba.

AArdvark · Post by **AArdvark** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:31 am

bands deserve payment for the music they spend upwards of a million dollars making,

Point of order here. Bands spend very little money making the music. It's recording the music that costs so much. Again, studio time is very expensive.

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OK BACK
TO SONY
DICKWADS NOW
AARDVARK

Lysander · Post by **Lysander** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:27 am

That's exactly what I had in mind when I said making, actualy. Recording time. But that's my fault for using hte wrong term. K done!

AArdvark · Post by **AArdvark** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:14 am

K. Gotcha. Should the music be free? Before anyone had a way of recording music the only way to hear it was to drop a couple three bucks and go to a concert hall. But the muscians were starving then too. It seems like it's a feast or famine thing. But we were talking about rootkits and SONY, weren't we..

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THOSE FUCKWADS
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