Which movie is best?

AArdvark · Post by **AArdvark** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:19 pm

I didn't like that the called the computer 'mother'.

I didn't like: 'It's just game over, man it's just game over"!

Other than that they were both pretty good popcorn movies.

Blade Runner is a different category.

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Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:59 pm

What's this? ANOTHER person agreeing with me in this thread?? Vark, that was a fine post, with a fine sentiment and quality of argument. I also didn't like them calling the ship's doctor "Mother." It was good of you to bring it up, but more... it was good of you to let ME know that I am saying agreeable things here.

Vark, what's the ONE character, image, line of dialogue or scene from Blade Runner that speaks to you, man? If someone forced you to pick one thing, I mean.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:43 pm

Who doesn't like "game over, man! Game over!"

How can anyone not like that?

Bugs · Post by **Bugs** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:52 pm

How do I vote for Magnolia?

Bugs · Post by **Bugs** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:53 pm

Shit, I might have meant Vanilla Sky. They're basically the same movie anyway.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:38 pm

Bugs wrote:Shit, I might have meant Vanilla Sky. They're basically the same movie anyway.

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Flack · Post by **Flack** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:10 pm

I haven't seen Alien or Aliens since middle school. Hell, it's been so long that I don't even remember which one is which. I've seen Blade Runner many times.

I am trying to listen to this Metallica / Lou Reed album for the first time right now so they all seem like fuckin' masterpieces at the moment.

RetroRomper · Post by **RetroRomper** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:38 pm

I want to hear Pinback tell us why the narration in Blade Runner was a mistake and turned the movie into a complete travesty.

(the "final cut" was in general, a better film regardless of the narration).

AArdvark · Post by **AArdvark** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:12 am

Blade Runner...

It's one of the movies that I have never seen the whole thing in it's entirety. Funny how that happens with some movies.

I read 'Electric Sheep* ' way before I realized that the movie was based on it. Never made the connection until I saw Phil Dick's name in the credits. I never thought of the story as cinema noir (or whatever bleak future movie genre is called)

The parts that I did see were pretty good. I couldn't identify with any of the characters but Wrigley Scott did a workmans' job of putting his vision on the screen.

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Tdarcos · Post by **Tdarcos** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:33 am

Bugs wrote:Shit, I might have meant Vanilla Sky. They're basically the same movie anyway.

"Some of you may have seen a movie called The Matrix, in which the main character, Neo, isn't sure if things around him are real, or if they are simulated and that the world is just a figment of his imagination. They do the same thing to Arnold Schwartzenegger in a movie called Total Recall. And to Tom Cruise in a really strange movie called Vanilla Sky. They all wonder if what is happening to them is real."
- Supervisor 246, in Paul Robinson's Instrument of God.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:41 am

RetroRomper wrote:I want to hear Pinback tell us why the narration in Blade Runner was a mistake and turned the movie into a complete travesty.

(the "final cut" was in general, a better film regardless of the narration).

Two reasons, one minor, one huge:

MINOR REASON: Throughout the movie, it is unnecessary, and destroys the film's poetry. It's like, you have a masterful painting, and you just want it to wash over you, but there's this annoying little midget standing in front of it going OKAY LIKE, OVER HERE, THAT YELLOW SIGNIFIES SADNESS? I READ THAT IN A BOOK SO IT'S TOTALLY TRUE YOU GUYS. Shut up. SHUT UP.

HUGE REASON: If there's a VOICEOVER, it means there's going to be a HAPPY ENDING, because the VOICEOVER is going to VOICE-OVER the HAPPY ENDING. I think we can all agree that the HAPPY ENDING is the worst thing to ever be done to a movie by anyone not named George Lucas. And the VOICEOVER is part of it. So, guilt by motherfucking association.

RetroR · Post by **RetroR** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:49 pm

I vaguely remember the ending to the 1986 version: do they just cut out after he kills the replicants? (I mean the, "like tears in the rain" line). The main draw for me though, was that they finally included the Unicorn scene so the few vocal, fans who constantly asked for it, would be silenced.

The scene works too... And it's always nice to see allusions to the original story that don't detract or seem out of place.

RetroR · Post by **RetroR** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:21 pm

AArdvark wrote:I read 'Electric Sheep* ' way before I realized that the movie was based on it. Never made the connection until I saw Phil Dick's name in the credits. I never thought of the story as cinema noir (or whatever bleak future movie genre is called

The proper term is dystopia I believe (idealized yet obviously fractured and broken world / society). And the movie actually makes a few allusions to the story: there is a street bazaar / merchants row of animals, the darkened sky suggests a polluted and dying environment, and it is stated bluntly that an owl in the film is "of course not real."

Normally, such references outside of the scope of the plot are hokey, campy and don't fit very well but here they are just minor nods to the greater world the singular story of this Blade Runner inhabits (as is the off world nature of the replicants and the fact earth feels isolated, or at least disconnected).

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:35 pm

RetroR wrote:I vaguely remember the ending to the 1986 version: do they just cut out after he kills the replicants?

I don't know what "1986 version" you're talking about -- the only 1986 version is the US Theatrical version edited for TV.

The US Theatrical version ended with the aforementioned HAPPY ENDING.

All other versions end with Deckard picking up the paper unicorn, nodding, crushing it like a beer can, and getting the fuck out of his apartment.

RetroRomper · Post by **RetroRomper** » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:51 pm

In your own words, what is the "happy ending" ?

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:42 pm

Deckard and Rachel flying through the air, on a bright sunny day, to a backdrop of leftover footage from the opening of The Shining (*), with the voiceover explaining that it turns out Rachel was special and had her four-year-lifespan extended indefinitely so they could all live happily ever after!

(*) True fact!

RetroRomper · Post by **RetroRomper** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:41 am

Have we agreed that Blade Runner is the best Ridley Scott film?

Does the lack of enthusiasm in this thread for Alien, preclude excitement for his new foray into the story behind the xenomorphs and "old ones" (or whatever the giant, alien race that appeared for five minutes in the original were called)?

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:49 pm

RetroRomper wrote:Have we agreed that Blade Runner is the best Ridley Scott film?

No. Alien is the best Ridley Scott film.

Does the lack of enthusiasm in this thread for Alien, preclude excitement for his new foray into the story behind the xenomorphs and "old ones" (or whatever the giant, alien race that appeared for five minutes in the original were called)?

No. The fact that he hasn't made a decent move in thirty years precludes said excitement.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:47 pm

The poll here shows that Brader Runnah is the best Ridley Scott film.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:10 pm

This pole HERE shows that YOUR MOM is the best Ridley Scott film.

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