The Hateful Eight

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 8:58 am

Saw this in 70mm, in the "roadshow" format. Everyone got a (very slick) program on our way in. No previews, no nothing, just begins with a five minute overture, and offering a 12-minute intermission at around the 100-minute mark. Quite a memorable moviegoing experience, hearkening back to days long gone, when hitting the cinema was an experience, and not just a way to kill a couple hours and eat candy.

Early criticism dings the flick for being overly long, overly talky, unnecessarily rude, nasty, "Tarantino-y".

I don't disagree with any of that, but I count those as positives, not negatives, and as such I found it to be an orgiastic celebration of everything Quentin has brought to the screen for the last 25 years.

The irony of digging up and using 70mm, a format known for sweeping, gorgeous vistas, and using it to shoot a movie almost entirely set indoors in a single room, is not lost on anyone. Cheeky bastard.

Perhaps I loved it more than I would have if it hadn't gotten the Roadshow treatment. But oh well, I can't do anything about it. I loved it a lot. Definitely in the top half of QT's "hateful eight" movies.

Four (****) Stars.

RetroR · Post by **RetroR** » Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:43 am

I actually felt this was the weakest of his movies - characters are two dimensional, he plays up the fourth wall narrative, and the scenario an otherwise interesting cast of characters could create falls flat.

Did Tarantino have to explain both the title of a chapter and the back story with a full flashback? At that point he is gutting a corpse, as most of the characters are presented as over the top with one defining motivation (either get to the city or free the prisoner) and he barely focuses on the interactions between them, which is the most fun thing about the film.

Tarantino really needs to cleanse his palette with a new concept or something a bit more outrageous, because this feels like every had cliche from his other films wrapped into one, two hour event.

On the other hand, it is a western and there aren't enough of those films being made anymore.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:58 pm

Death Proof was the weakest of his movies. There is no question about that.

My current ranking:

1. Kill Bill.
2. Pulp Fiction.
3. Hateful Eight.
4. Reservoir Dogs.
5. Django Unchained.
6. Inglourious Basterds.
7. Jackie Brown.
8. Death Proof.

3, 4, and 5 I could probably switch around, and I haven't seen Jackie Brown in fifteen years, so a re-watch might change that.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Sun May 15, 2016 12:06 pm

I agree with a lot of what Retro said. Nobody loves "idiots trapped in a room yelling at each other" more than I do, but where was all the tension in virtually every scene from Inglorious Basterds? Where??

It wasn't bad or anything and I was entertained but it seemed like it was missing a certain magic that he'd created before to turn it into Fucking Awesome.

Jizaboz · Post by **Jizaboz** » Tue May 17, 2016 8:25 am

I don't really care for any of his movies except parts of Pulp Fiction. Tried to watch Death Car because Kurt Russell is cool but shortly after he ate the nachos and some chick did this long, stupid dance I turned it off.

Tdarcos · Post by **Tdarcos** » Sat May 21, 2016 12:12 pm

Jizaboz wrote:Tried to watch Death Car because Kurt Russell is cool but shortly after he ate the nachos and some chick did this long, stupid dance I turned it off.

I watched both halves of Planet Terror but Jiz is correct about Death Proof, the whole lapdance scene was just long, drawn out and boring, he should have cut it substantially, 5 minutes at most, if that, it seemed like it turned what was already a too long 4 hour movie into a 15 hour movie.

It seemed like he was trying to do a scene-by-scene total recreation on screen of the complete works of Fyodor Dostoyevski.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Sat May 21, 2016 1:46 pm

Jizaboz wrote:I don't really care for any of his movies except parts of Pulp Fiction.

I would like this opinion stricken from the record.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Sat May 21, 2016 2:09 pm

Death Proof is the worst movie I have ever seen. But then he made Inglorious, which isn't a great movie but has great individual scenes. So it's all good.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Sat May 21, 2016 4:17 pm

Well, he also made Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill, and Django Unchained, which are all five goddamn star movies, so y'all can suck it.

SUCK IT.

Immediately.

Jizaboz · Post by **Jizaboz** » Mon May 23, 2016 12:40 pm

I'll just let Tarantino suck it.

loafergirl · Post by **loafergirl** » Wed May 25, 2016 7:43 am

Are we talking directing only, or any part in? Because Dusk Til Dawn has been completely left out here (as has the Selma Heyak snake dance). As has Desperado.

And for the love of Pete, now that someone brought up old threads this reminds me the "Street Trash"/"Reservoir Dogs" one from approximately 2 plus decades ago. Zombies of threads past are rising.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Wed May 25, 2016 8:00 am

I am talking directing only.

RetroRomper · Post by **RetroRomper** » Wed May 25, 2016 11:27 pm

Why are we talking to someone who listed Jackie Brown as number seven of Tarantino's top films?

WHO THE HELL DOES PINBACK THINK HE IS?!

Tdarcos · Post by **Tdarcos** » Fri May 27, 2016 5:03 pm

RetroRomper wrote:WHO THE HELL DOES PINBACK THINK HE IS?!

Somehow I think either a response of "You really don't want to know," or "BRIAN DON'T!" should follow your question.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Fri May 27, 2016 8:03 pm

Tdarcos wrote:
RetroRomper wrote:WHO THE HELL DOES PINBACK THINK HE IS?!
Somehow I think either a response of "You really don't want to know," or "BRIAN DON'T!" should follow your question.

https://www.youtu--- oh wait. That one wasn't that terrible. Well, I mean, at least it was short.

Flack · Post by **Flack** » Tue May 31, 2016 2:57 pm

pinback wrote:My current ranking:

1. Kill Bill.
2. Pulp Fiction.
3. Hateful Eight.
4. Reservoir Dogs.
5. Django Unchained.
6. Inglourious Basterds.
7. Jackie Brown.
8. Death Proof.

I watched Django Unchained over the weekend so now Inglourious is the only one I haven't seen. That being said, I pretty much agree with your order, even the floppability of 4 and 5 (and probably 6).

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Tue May 31, 2016 4:23 pm

You're a good man, with excellent taste. I've always said that. Well, I've said you enjoy tasting things.

Flack · Post by **Flack** » Tue May 31, 2016 7:36 pm

That's true, my favorite is a Quarter Pounder.

Er, Royale with Cheese.

RetroRomper · Post by **RetroRomper** » Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:06 pm

I haven't really heard Pinback justify why The Hateful Eight ranks so highly aside from it being shown on 70mm celluloid. Would you mind actually telling us why you consider the movie to be good?

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:13 pm

Put a bunch of idiots in a room and makes it exciting for 3 hours. Also, looks and sounds fantastic.