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Flack · Post by **Flack** » Fri May 22, 2015 9:43 pm

Today someone told me that the average person stops listening to new music by the age of 33. Do you agree with that? I don't think I even made it that long.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Fri May 22, 2015 9:55 pm

I heard that David Letterman was 50 when Everlong came out, which I guess is his favorite song.

I'd say that more than half of the songs I like most in the world were written after I turned 33. Hell, dubstep didn't even exist back then. (I am sure that's like saying that the Internet didn't exist until 1997.)

Pop punk and dubstep are two living genres, so maybe I am just an odd case. I don't know.

RealNC · Post by **RealNC** » Fri May 22, 2015 11:19 pm

I didn't stop listening to new stuff because I was 33. I stopped because all new stuff was shit.

Oh, wait...

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Sat May 23, 2015 3:23 am

I discovered Meshuggah at the age of 41, and it was essentially all I listened to for the next two years.

AVERAGE age, though, I'd believe it, for two reasons:

1. We're all nerdy music geeks, so it stands to reason we'd be more open to new genres.

2. There are many, many people who just do not care about music at all. They'll listen, and they have songs they like (but aren't sure who the artist is), but they do not seek out new music, because they don't seek music.

The Jew has basically listened to nothing but Rush since he was a teenager. I mean, I did about a full decade of Rush-only, we all do at some point, but even I moved on.

Knuckles the CLown · Post by **Knuckles the CLown** » Sat May 23, 2015 4:27 am

I'm 38 I enjoy finding new music all the time. Most bands can't make a good album after THEY turn 33. Young people make the best music. The artists I enjoyed when I was 18 are either dead or terrible now.

It's hard liking new genres more than anything, I'm never going to understand dubstep or how DJ get's paid 30 million to "perform" at a club. But in the age of listening to mostly just one song by an artist I've found 100's of songs by new bands I enjoy.

I stopped being band loyal a long time ago. Watching people fap themselves over any piece of crap DMB put out and being obsessed with them never appealed to me.

It also hurts when you find out people you know or writers you come across never evolved musically.

Example-

I think Bruce Springsteen has maybe 3 decent songs total. About the same as Wang-Chung. Joe Posanski is a great baseball writer. The guy still can't get over "The Boss" injects him into everything he writes. A common them of the 45-55 crowd. It's depressing.

Lame asses Peter King and Bill Simmons can't get enough U2.

Peter Gammons quoting Jackson Browne songs at every turn.

That's just sports writers off the top of my head.

All of those bands/artists peaked 30 years ago and are awful now. But they just can't give it up.

I loved Pearl Jam, I haven't enjoyed a thing they have produced since probably 1999. Like everything else you should move on, other people do things better.

Do I like say, Pink Floyd? Sure. Have they done anything worth listening to in 35 years. Fuck no.

So I will always look for new music and not be band blind or band loyal.

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Sat May 23, 2015 4:40 am

I'd like to challenge the Brothers Sherwin to collectively go an entire week on the internet without mentioning Bill Simmons.

AArdvark · Post by **AArdvark** » Sat May 23, 2015 10:43 am

Er, 33 sounds late. I think I was around twenty five or so when I figured out that all the music I liked were by defunct / dead artists. Maybe it's like the law that says you can't put a person on U.S. currency unless they are dead. Or it just could be that music after 1990 kinda tapers off into Meh-world.

Note: there are some bright spots , but they aint many.

THE
MOSTLY JUST NOISE
AARDVARK

Knuckles the CLown · Post by **Knuckles the CLown** » Sat May 23, 2015 12:23 pm

If anybody became an old man at 25 and stopped listening to new music it's not that "new" music sucks it's that you quit trying. I'd be more than happy to introduce many of you to some great songs that would still be in your wheelhouse.

AArdvark · Post by **AArdvark** » Sat May 23, 2015 1:54 pm

Well, first, are they dead?
Maybe I stopped trying, I dunno. From what I hear on teh radio (including college alt-rock stations) it sounds like the songwriters gave up.

Anyway, shoot me some links here and I'll check 'em out.

THE
NOTHER SHOT
AARDVARK

pinback · Post by **pinback** » Sat May 23, 2015 3:36 pm

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Knuckles the CLown · Post by **Knuckles the CLown** » Sun May 24, 2015 1:35 pm

I happen to be a big fan of Spoon. I probably like over 10 songs by them over the years.

Rent I pay from last year.

The Decemberists have a lot of good songs.

Engine Driver

The Rake's song

Jizaboz · Post by **Jizaboz** » Tue May 26, 2015 1:38 pm

Hrm yeah certain genres I made it no where near 33. Rap, for instance.. I can't stand listening to ANY of it made after 1999 and even now I can only take that in small doses. I also can't stand to listen to anything that sounds remotely like Korn or Deftones any more, though I really enjoyed the first Korn album back when it was still relatively new.

I listen to more black metal and 60s lounge and surf music these days than I used to (yeah, strange combo there) and have lately discovered new stuff (to me) in those genres.

Flack · Post by **Flack** » Tue May 26, 2015 4:01 pm

We're staying in this thing for the next three days.

Flack · Post by **Flack** » Tue May 26, 2015 4:03 pm

GD wrong thread.

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Tue May 26, 2015 4:19 pm

It's your thread now, Spaceman Flack!

Flack · Post by **Flack** » Tue May 26, 2015 4:26 pm

For what it's worth, we're listening to Led Zeppelin in it.

I have to be in the mood to listen to new music and I don't find myself in that mood very often anymore. When I do listen to new music, it's typically from old bands (just listened to the new Faith No More on the way up here).

Ice Cream Jonsey · Post by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Tue May 26, 2015 10:48 pm

If this song does nothing for you, you're already dead.

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This came out after all of you turned 33 except Retro. Retro, listen to this in 10 years.

Fatass · Post by **Fatass** » Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:29 pm

Jizaboz, may I ask what black metal you have been into lately? I thought the newest Krieg was excellent, new Melechesh (not exactly BM but you know) was surprisingly not top heavy and lame but very good throughout, everyone I know seems to love the new Drudkh. Inquisition, Marduk, and Taake had great releases, and Ancestral Shadows and Obsidian Tongue are awesome local (to me) bands. I'm still listening to the Woe release from like 2 years ago so that was pretty fucking good. I really liked the newest Nachtmystium even though Blake is a total thief douche apparently. I could go on but yeah won't, it's a bit of a passion for me but I also don't listen to it much when the outside temperatures are above 50.

Jizaboz · Post by **Jizaboz** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:40 am

You are giving me some ideas, fatass.. as I haven't even heard of most the bands you mentioned.

These days in the black metal realm I usually listen to..

Darkthrone ("Panzerfaust" and "Total Death" are probably my favorite complete albums of theirs)

Burzum (Good 'ol Varg! I enjoy his ambient/folk stuff too)

Silencer (Still haven't worn out Death - Pierce Me)

Also I occasionally listen to Isengard, but they don't have a large library.

And lastly, while not quite metal (but dark and joyfully disturbing) I'm really enjoying the "contaminated" vinyl record of Diagnose: Lebensgefahr - Transformalin

I'll have to check out your recommendations soon!

Tdarcos · Post by **Tdarcos** » Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:55 am

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:I'd say that more than half of the songs I like most in the world were written after I turned 33.

I'm probably old school, a large amount of music I'd heard during my formative years (circa 1966-1980) were the music of that period. I did like some of the music of the '80s (Fleetwood Mac's Everywhere blew me away the first time I heard it), and I liked Fall Out Boy's Thnks Fr th Mmrs when it was released in 2007 or so, which makes me about 46 then.

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:Hell, dubstep didn't even exist back then. (I am sure that's like saying that the Internet didn't exist until 1997.).

The Internet technically was invented in 1969, but for most people it wasn't really available until 1992, cue to 2 changes: (1) Rick Adams starts UUNET allowing commercial and private access on a non-NSF backbone, and (2) NSF drops commercial restrictions on Internet traffic.

But you mention about some genres of music being older than we might think, so if you havent done so, I recommend the movie "Mr. Holland's Opus" where Richard Dreyfus,as the title character, points out that much "new" music today still relies on chord seqences created when Bach and Beethoven were alive. Among other things.