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I submit that Linux is dying if not already dead and that the PC will supplant it as the next great computer architecture after the Amiga.



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P.S. I just found out that the Filter song "Hey man nice shot" was about Budd Dwyer offing himself in 1987 in a press conference. I am hoping against all hope that the Willie Nelson-Waylon Jennings collab "Poncho and Lefty" is not about something similarly sinister. Please do not burst my bubble if it is. I am not going to try to find out.

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Why do you say that? Linux has been around for about 15 years, and it has a dedicated if relatively small user base and widespread community support.

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brooksy wrote:P.S. I just found out that the Filter song "Hey man nice shot" was about Budd Dwyer offing himself in 1987 in a press conference.
Ok, not only did I think that was about Kurt, I could swear that I heard an interview in which he was saying that Kurt was his idol, and he wrote it about him. What's real? Oh, so, I dunno.

If this post was sarcasm, you got me. I just so don't get this whole media meta thing anymore, and don't care.

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It was my understanding that the song was about Budd Dwyer.
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Linux is almost too powerful a tool. Let me se if I can dig up the comparison I read about Windows, Linux, Apple OS and BeOs. It was kinda funny.


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Yesterday, someone asked me to justify why we were going to pay $100 to apply for a grant for free ArcView (at $1500 shelf), when there were free mapping programs out there. I said nigga, please, that that was like asking why we should pay $100 to get free Microsoft expensive shit when Ubuntu linux was out there. We're not in this for the street cred, we need something that other people know wtf we're talking about.

This has been a public service non-sequitor.

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Post by AArdvark »

Found It! Neil Stephenson, go figure.

Exerpt from his essay 'In the beginning was the Command line'


The analogy between cars and operating systems is not half bad, and so let me run with it for a moment, as a way of giving an executive summary of our situation today.

Imagine a crossroads where four competing auto dealerships are situated. One of them (Microsoft) is much, much bigger than the others. It started out years ago selling three-speed bicycles (MS-DOS); these were not perfect, but they worked, and when they broke you could easily fix them.

There was a competing bicycle dealership next door (Apple) that one day began selling motorized vehicles--expensive but attractively styled cars with their innards hermetically sealed, so that how they worked was something of a mystery.

The big dealership responded by rushing a moped upgrade kit (the original Windows) onto the market. This was a Rube Goldberg contraption that, when bolted onto a three-speed bicycle, enabled it to keep up, just barely, with Apple-cars. The users had to wear goggles and were always picking bugs out of their teeth while Apple owners sped along in hermetically sealed comfort, sneering out the windows. But the Micro-mopeds were cheap, and easy to fix compared with the Apple-cars, and their market share waxed.

Eventually the big dealership came out with a full-fledged car: a colossal station wagon (Windows 95). It had all the aesthetic appeal of a Soviet worker housing block, it leaked oil and blew gaskets, and it was an enormous success. A little later, they also came out with a hulking off-road vehicle intended for industrial users (Windows NT) which was no more beautiful than the station wagon, and only a little more reliable.

Since then there has been a lot of noise and shouting, but little has changed. The smaller dealership continues to sell sleek Euro-styled sedans and to spend a lot of money on advertising campaigns. They have had GOING OUT OF BUSINESS! signs taped up in their windows for so long that they have gotten all yellow and curly. The big one keeps making bigger and bigger station wagons and ORVs.

On the other side of the road are two competitors that have come along more recently.

One of them (Be, Inc.) is selling fully operational Batmobiles (the BeOS). They are more beautiful and stylish even than the Euro-sedans, better designed, more technologically advanced, and at least as reliable as anything else on the market--and yet cheaper than the others.

With one exception, that is: Linux, which is right next door, and which is not a business at all. It's a bunch of RVs, yurts, tepees, and geodesic domes set up in a field and organized by consensus. The people who live there are making tanks. These are not old-fashioned, cast-iron Soviet tanks; these are more like the M1 tanks of the U.S. Army, made of space-age materials and jammed with sophisticated technology from one end to the other. But they are better than Army tanks. They've been modified in such a way that they never, ever break down, are light and maneuverable enough to use on ordinary streets, and use no more fuel than a subcompact car. These tanks are being cranked out, on the spot, at a terrific pace, and a vast number of them are lined up along the edge of the road with keys in the ignition. Anyone who wants can simply climb into one and drive it away for free.

Customers come to this crossroads in throngs, day and night. Ninety percent of them go straight to the biggest dealership and buy station wagons or off-road vehicles. They do not even look at the other dealerships.

Of the remaining ten percent, most go and buy a sleek Euro-sedan, pausing only to turn up their noses at the philistines going to buy the station wagons and ORVs. If they even notice the people on the opposite side of the road, selling the cheaper, technically superior vehicles, these customers deride them cranks and half-wits.

The Batmobile outlet sells a few vehicles to the occasional car nut who wants a second vehicle to go with his station wagon, but seems to accept, at least for now, that it's a fringe player.

The group giving away the free tanks only stays alive because it is staffed by volunteers, who are lined up at the edge of the street with bullhorns, trying to draw customers' attention to this incredible situation. A typical conversation goes something like this:

Hacker with bullhorn: "Save your money! Accept one of our free tanks! It is invulnerable, and can drive across rocks and swamps at ninety miles an hour while getting a hundred miles to the gallon!"

Prospective station wagon buyer: "I know what you say is true...but...er...I don't know how to maintain a tank!"

Bullhorn: "You don't know how to maintain a station wagon either!"

Buyer: "But this dealership has mechanics on staff. If something goes wrong with my station wagon, I can take a day off work, bring it here, and pay them to work on it while I sit in the waiting room for hours, listening to elevator music."

Bullhorn: "But if you accept one of our free tanks we will send volunteers to your house to fix it for free while you sleep!"

Buyer: "Stay away from my house, you freak!"

Bullhorn: "But..."

Buyer: "Can't you see that everyone is buying station wagons?"

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Post by hygraed »

AArdvark wrote:Found It! Neil Stephenson, go figure.

Exerpt from his essay 'In the beginning was the Command line'
That is the best car analogy I have ever heard.

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brooksy wrote:I submit that Linux is dying if not already dead and that the PC will supplant it as the next great computer architecture after the Amiga.
I don't even know what the fuck you think this means.

The PC is, more or less, a hardware architecture. As was, sort of, the Amiga. While Linux, and the AmigaOS, were operating systems.

Try breathing through your nose. Maybe you'll like it.

Meanwhile, I'll just continue being a Big Gay Mac User.

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Post by Draal »

[quote="bruce"]Meanwhile, I'll just continue being a Big Gay Mac User[/quote]

Hows BSD running for ya?

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quip

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Draal wrote:Hows BSD running for ya?
Super! Thanks for asking!

Also, with Parallels, XP, Solaris 10, Debian Etch, and ECS 1.1 are all running well. And I'm installing Nexenta now.

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Draal wrote:quip
What is this supposed to mean?
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Sometimes it's all meta, sometimes it's bullshit, and sometimes it's a placeholder for something he writes in days later that nobody will read as he edits it long after everyone else is on the next page. Ultimately, it's a boring affectation.

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So you're voting that we remove post editing again.
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boring

1.to weary by dullness, tedious repetition, unwelcome attentions, etc.

affectation

1.an effort to appear to have a quality not really or fully possessed; the pretense of actual possession: an affectation of interest in art; affectation of great wealth.

"Ultimately, it's a boring affectation"

Predisposition to a routine action which is found to be tiresome or in a certain context, unneccessary in that it derives meaning only from itself as the context has changed, or one considered "pointless" because it will not be considered by the other participants.

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Stop that.
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