pinback wrote:I hope Paul understands--

Paul, I'm talking to you now:

I hope you understand that, through all of this, the one thing we all really love is your cooking videos. Non-ironically, we all really, really enjoy them, and hope you do more.

pinback wrote:Also, for those who are curious, Jerry's Subs is like the local "Sbarro" chain in the DC area. It's unacceptable,

pinback wrote:I dunno. It depressed me. Jerry's Subs should depress you.

Immediately, please.

pinback wrote:But yes, we still all love the cooking videos, Paul. More please.

pinback wrote: They had the perfect pizza slice! Meaning-- I'm not sure, meaning they got a robot to slice a pizza into 8 exact triangles?

Tdarcos wrote:

Flack wrote:Since you obviously have no clue about civility, allow me to enlighten you. Saying rude and hateful things about someone's family in a public Internet forum

Oh please. You think this place is 'public'? There's probably about 20 people who read the messages here, mostly the regulars. Maybe 50 tops. You think the general public sees much of anything here, you're certainly deluded.

Flack wrote:and then deleting them is not "taking them back".

Well how the hell would you take back a statement made? Leave it around so more people can read it? It is common practice when things which are said which are wrong or should not have been said, to remove and correct them. A newspaper can't unprint copies, but they can change the on-line version of an article to remove the errors when they can.

Flack wrote:That's something a child would do, Paul.

Bullshit. A child would leave it up and follow with even nastier remarks. A perfect example was the fight leading up to the kid in A Christmas Story sticking his tongue on the flagpole. Children don't stop and reconsider and try to correct the problem, they just escallate it.

Flack wrote:It's like saying, "I hope Paul Robinson dies of cancer, sooner than later. Oh, just kidding!"

Which is NOT what I did. That's making a bad comment and then trying to duck responsibility for it in the same comment. If you're going to mix metaphors or completely misstate the facts try to do it where someone who knows what the facts are isn't there to call you out on it.

There is a difference when someone leaves something hateful around. When you see offensive remarks saying bad things about someone, do you think the answer is to leave them up so more people can see them? Especially since you think this is a hugely public forum.

Flack wrote:Attacking someone's wife on the Internet and then deleting it once they've read it and responded isn't taking it back -- it's being weak.

Okay, then, asshole, how exactly do you take back something you said which the other person considers hateful while leaving it up to allow it to be continued to be seen, possibly by others? How the fuck do you take back and try to retract whatever you said while still leaving it to be seen?

Hey, I'm stupid here. Enlighten me. Show me how someone takes back what they said without in some way trying to remove it so more people don't have to read the offensive material. Because if you know a way I'm all ears.

Flack wrote:I thought you figured that out the last time this happened (when you slammed Ben's (now) wife on the forum), but you didn't. Apparently nothing gets in to your head that hasn't had half a stick of butter dropped into it first.

I resent that remark and find it very offensive. I have never used a half a stick of butter in my cooking, I have used 3 tablespoons, which, if you weren't as stupid as I said you were, you would know that it's less than half a stick.

You want to throw insults we can do it here all day long, or we can go on to serious matters.

Flack wrote:And now you're going to take the high road? Oh, right. First you want to come out swinging, hurling personal insults at me, but when I respond you're going to take the high road? I truly, honestly think you lack the mental capacity to understand how pithless you appear.

I know exactly how pithless I am; I had to buy a fucking adjustable wrench because I can't open soda bottles any more. I'm on fuckin' disabiliy because use of my wrist after a short time causes pain. I know exactly how much weakness I have because I have to deal with it every goddam day.

Flack wrote: I am not "implying" that you do not know what is going on here, I am telling you that you do not know what is going on here. You think deleting your bile and pretending to be sorry is taking the high road?

And again, asshole, you think leaving it up so people can continue to see it is going to show that I realized I was wrong?

Again, I'm stupid. Explain to me how to show that one realizes one made a mistake by continuing to leave the mistake around for people to see? Show me how someone apologizes for a stupid thing they said or did and shows that they really regret what they said and leaves the comment up for people to continue to read.

Please, I'd like to know how to do that because I don't have the slightest fucking idea how to do that. Since you seem to think what I did in deleting my words was wrong and does not represent a true apology, then you clearly must know how to show a true apology while leaving the offensive material up to continue to be insulting. Please tell me how so I can learn.

Flack wrote:You are so far from the high road your chair would run out of battery before you made it up the hill.

You don't even know how much battery power I have nor do you even know about how power chairs work. I live on a hill and go up it every day I go out. So much for your attempts to insult me. Lame, lame lame.

Flack wrote:So save your pity for someone else.

Oh I will. I'll save it for someone who can understand other human beings, a characteristic and capacity you clearly lack. At least I tried to show that I realized I'd made a mistake and tried, in whatever fashion I have, to make amends for it. Your response is to presume malice and dishonesty. You're a sick, twisted person and I am surprised you can live with yourself or live around others having this kind of hatred in you.

Flack wrote:Were you pitying me yesterday when my wife, who you think is too dumb to understand how to use contraception, managed to figure out how to use the grill and grilled up some ribeyes for Father's Day?

You want me to throw insults back? Some woman figured out how to put meat on a fire and not burn it. Big fuckin' deal.

Again, you want to throw insults around we can do it all day long, or we can go on to be reasonable people who try to act civilly. I tried. So right now, it's your choice, and so far your choice has been to stay in the cesspool and continue to throw shit.

Flack wrote:Were you pitying me over the weekend when I was out interacting with other human beings in real life? Were you pitying me when my daughter came up to me this weekend with a hand drawn card that said, "Happy Father's Day Daddy. Thunder Up!" I have a wonderful life, Paul. Save your pity for someone truly pitiful who needs it, like yourself.

"Father's day" is basically a commercialized holiday to get people to buy things. Exactly what does all of what you said prove? That your dick works and you can knock up some woman and breed. Big fuckin' deal. So now you got dependents you have to take care of, and worry about, and pay for.

You made your choices and one of them was to have a family. Just because you choose to increase the population of this world just makes you one of many who have done so. It does not necessarily mean your existence has more value than mine.

In 50 or a hundred years from now no one is going to know of or care about the (prior) existence of anyone on this board who will most likely be dead. We're born, we die, and we make choices between those two events. And for most of us - like most of the estimated 15 billion people who have lived on this earth before we did - we're just part of the large mass who lives, goes through life as best we can, and eventually dies. And for most of us, that's it, we're just a memory if that.

Flack wrote: [ ]Fuck you, you rolling potato.

(1) For a guy who claims to be married and have kids, you sure have this huge fixation with gay sex. Do you have latent homosexual tendencies you're not acknowledging?
(2) When did I ever use potatoes in my cooking videos and how would I be one? If you're going to be insulting, a comment about my size would have worked better, I think.

Flack wrote:The next fluid you receive from me won't be me pissing down your back. It'll be me spitting on your grave, you fucking troll.

You really have that much hate that you'd spend money to come half way across the country just to spit on my grave when I die? I find that rather amazing. But are you sure that's going to be the case? There's a hell of a lot of people supposedly in better condition than I am who keep dying before I do, as the thread on that here shows. Are you sure that you're going to outlive me?

Tdarcos wrote:I put up with your shit long enough. After you made a statement approving of child molesting, I realized I'd remained silent too long. Now, the gloves are off.

Flack wrote:It gives me no greater joy to know that while the rest of us are interacting with people we love this morning and are preparing to go to work and contribute to society in general

Yeah, you who have so struggle for a living and worry about whether you're going to end up broke or out of a job, or everything else. I do not like being in a position of being disabled, but at least I am not in a position to have much in the way of money worries. I have a government-issued DB pension which means I can't outlive it, and proposals to cut Social Security would basically mean whoever does so might as well grab a live electrical cable or step into an operating blast furnace. That's why Social Security is called the Third Rail of politics: touch it and you die. Yes, it's a ridiculous Ponzi scheme and most people are going to get royally screwed, but the beauty of it is that even the most conservative estimates of when it goes broke are past my estimated lifespan. I don't have to worry about the problem.

Flack wrote:you will be sitting along in your cesspool of a room today, essentially waiting around to die.

Like you aren't going to die? We were all issued a death sentence from the instant we were created. And my method of calmly living my life and not hurting other people is somehow unsavory and rank? You have no idea how my room is and if someone put a gun to your head you probably couldn't even tell them what a cesspool is.

Flack wrote:Maybe you'll do another video for the world to mock,

Unlike you, I take people's comments at face value, if some people say they do like my cooking videos and want to see more of them, I'm willing to go along. I happen to like doing them, and, to put it bluntly, why the fuck do you care? You can't see my videos unless you choose to start them, and you know it's my video before you even click on it. If you don't fuckin' like my videos, don't fuckin' watch them. If you got a problem with them, then say what's wrong, provide some constructive criticism, don't just be what you're calling me, a dickhead, by just going around and complaining about things but you got no answers on how to fix them.

Flack wrote:or maybe you'll add another ten thousand words to a rambling novel that you couldn't pay anybody to read,

I would like other people to read my stories if they choose to, in order for me to have constructive criticism. But it's not necessary. I write my stories because I want to read them; if other people don't then that's their issue. But I like the stories, nobody else was writing them, so I had to. The only reason I released them is that I thought someone else might want to hear my ideas. If they don't, it does not make me any poorer nor does it reduce the splendor of my life.

Several million people have read Harry Potter in one book or another, of which I think there are seven. I have not read any of them even though my sister has the complete set around and I could look at any of them when I'm visiting. I've watched a couple of the movies because my sister loves the various films and when I'm visiting family she'll often be watching it.

The reason there are thousands of fiction books published every year is because there are lots of different tastes. The fact that a book or movie or other work of art does not reach a large audience or maybe doesn't sell does not mean it is bad, it can simply mean the audience that would have liked it never found it. I've watched lots of fairly good shows on TV that were cancelled because they couldn't find an audience. Hill Street Blues would never have made it if it had been judged on the (low) ratings that it had for the first few seasons.

Flack wrote:but essentially, you'll just sit there and rot away a little more. And someday you will die and someone else will come in there with a snow shovel and scoop up the kittle of your existence and put it in a trash dumpster and that will be the end of Paul Rogers' mark on this planet.

Other than that your survivors will be scooping up whatever you have that you they want and the rest will go in the trash, that will also be the end of Mr. Flack's mark on this planet too. You'll still die and rot same as I will.

Flack wrote:There will be no people crying at your funeral, no loving tributes written about a man -- hah, a "man" -- who did anything for anybody. Just a bunch of people on the Internet, sitting around, still laughing at you.

And you think that's bad? You think I would want to provide sadness to others? And just because I live by myself does not mean I don't have people who care about me.

Flack wrote:so while you're sitting in that room there of yours today, and thinking about writing rude comments about someone else's family on the Internet,

Oh yeah, right, I make one small mistake and try to correct it. Your response is to crank it up to 11 and go ballistic. At least I have the balls to admit I was wrong. You, on the other hand, continue to display the exact same stupidity I called you out about in my unthinking and stupid insult. I was willing to try to retract my comments as a way to reduce hurt to people. You, on the other hand, could only think to throw more hurt at others.

Flack wrote:think about that, you greasy fuckhole.

Could you please explain how you are aware I am greasy. Have you placed illegal monitoring devices in my house?

And how you are aware that I engage in homosexual acts? (Since I'm not a woman I don't have a vagina, the only way I could be or have a 'fuckhole' is if I was getting it 'up the chocolate channel')

Unless you can prove these things, your statments represent libel. I am a private citizen and as such you do not have the right to make such comments about me unless you can prove it, plus they were made with malice which makes possible damages more likely.

See, you can throw insults all you want, but the person has to care about your opinion for them to mean anything. I lost all care about your opinions when you annouced that child molesting and child rape are acceptable practices.

milker wrote:Tdarcos, what is your favorite pizza ever?

Flack wrote:Since you obviously have no clue about civility, allow me to enlighten you. Saying rude and hateful things about someone's family in a public Internet forum

Flack wrote:and then deleting them is not "taking them back".

Flack wrote:That's something a child would do, Paul.

Flack wrote:It's like saying, "I hope Paul Robinson dies of cancer, sooner than later. Oh, just kidding!"

Flack wrote:Attacking someone's wife on the Internet and then deleting it once they've read it and responded isn't taking it back -- it's being weak.

Flack wrote:I thought you figured that out the last time this happened (when you slammed Ben's (now) wife on the forum), but you didn't. Apparently nothing gets in to your head that hasn't had half a stick of butter dropped into it first.

Flack wrote:And now you're going to take the high road? Oh, right. First you want to come out swinging, hurling personal insults at me, but when I respond you're going to take the high road? I truly, honestly think you lack the mental capacity to understand how pithless you appear.

Flack wrote: I am not "implying" that you do not know what is going on here, I am telling you that you do not know what is going on here. You think deleting your bile and pretending to be sorry is taking the high road?

Flack wrote:You are so far from the high road your chair would run out of battery before you made it up the hill.

Flack wrote:So save your pity for someone else.

Flack wrote:Were you pitying me yesterday when my wife, who you think is too dumb to understand how to use contraception, managed to figure out how to use the grill and grilled up some ribeyes for Father's Day?

Flack wrote:Were you pitying me over the weekend when I was out interacting with other human beings in real life? Were you pitying me when my daughter came up to me this weekend with a hand drawn card that said, "Happy Father's Day Daddy. Thunder Up!" I have a wonderful life, Paul. Save your pity for someone truly pitiful who needs it, like yourself.

Flack wrote: [ ]Fuck you, you rolling potato.

Flack wrote:The next fluid you receive from me won't be me pissing down your back. It'll be me spitting on your grave, you fucking troll.

Tdarcos wrote:After you made a statement approving of child molesting,

Flack wrote:It gives me no greater joy to know that while the rest of us are interacting with people we love this morning and are preparing to go to work and contribute to society in general

Flack wrote:you will be sitting along in your cesspool of a room today, essentially waiting around to die.

Flack wrote:Maybe you'll do another video for the world to mock,

Flack wrote:or maybe you'll add another ten thousand words to a rambling novel that you couldn't pay anybody to read,

Flack wrote:but essentially, you'll just sit there and rot away a little more. And someday you will die and someone else will come in there with a snow shovel and scoop up the kittle of your existence and put it in a trash dumpster and that will be the end of Paul Rogers' mark on this planet.

Flack wrote:There will be no people crying at your funeral, no loving tributes written about a man -- hah, a "man" -- who did anything for anybody. Just a bunch of people on the Internet, sitting around, still laughing at you.

Flack wrote:so while you're sitting in that room there of yours today, and thinking about writing rude comments about someone else's family on the Internet,

Flack wrote:think about that, you greasy fuckhole.

RetroRomper wrote:Its notable that the usual personalities (Pinback and Jonsey specifically) remained neutral and even borderline supportive of Tdarcos, staying out of the confrontation. But things did "come to a head" as they say.

flack wrote:If you'll go back and read my original response (something that is possible because, unlike you, I'm not a spineless coward