Vitriola wrote:The reviews are in: it blows. The backlash of a crowd expecting waay too much, another Reloaded fiasco, or is this a fresh new level of suck? I, for one, am sick of going to see the movies I know will suck, just so I can be in-the-know about how exactly it sucks, just like everyone else who thought it sucked, and am not going to go see this in the theaters.

I saw it at the theater and it was alright. It sort of finished the story (although they clearly left it open for yet another) but at least killed Keaunu and Carrie-Ann's characters so at least they won't be back again. I figured that i had seen the other two and since i was going to see it then i might as well get it over with. I don't see much point in watching any of these on a small tv screen. Lots of the dialog sounded "forced", like they were taking a short cut to explain things. The fight scene in Zion has lots of flaws (like why the hell don't the humans have at least body armor while they use their open fighting vehicles) but at least keeps moving. At the end, the Architect talks to Neo with a face made out of lots of little robots that looks really cheesy. I felt like all of the bad reviews of it were right on but there is a certain relief in being done with it. I liked the first Matrix enough that i at least wanted to see how they ended it.

I am relativley sure you will love it, and that it doesn't exist in the 'states.

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JOLT COUNTRY SECRET SANTA!!!

Yeah, I claim Lex.

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Eight "Lexx" episodes are in my possession right now on DVD because of Columbia House

That is something I deserve dawgeddy Props for. Scottish German Canadian tongue-in-cheek Sci-Fi, anybody?

Also, Robb: I've found what I'm getting you for Christmas. I am relativley sure you will love it, and that it doesn't exist in the 'states.

Jethro Q. Walrustitty wrote:Jonsey, those automatic DVDs are always $20 a pop, aren't they? Methinks thou art exaggerating when you claim $27.

Road to Peredition was for me, because I let my statement go a couple months before paying up. It was like $1 extra per month.

But yeah, the automatic ones come out to be either $24.xx or $25.xx once shipping and handling are brought into the equation.

(Also, I think Jimmy was just saying that if I bought it and didn't want it I could send it to him. He is not so crazy and I am not so charismatic that there's extra value to owning the copy of MATRIX II that I had in my possession for all of a couple hours or anything.)

I hopped on the Columbia bandwagon as I nabbed six DVDs for just a hair under $20 total:
Ran (Akira Kurosawa)
MP & the Holy Grail SE
Tron 20th Anniversary
Leon (The Professional int'l cut)
Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea

And I merely have to buy two more at $20 a pop. I told 'em to send my Terminator 3, that'll be one of them. After that, dunno. The end sum will be ~$65 for eight movies, almost all with $30-$35 retail prices. Not too bad.

The latest "director's selection" is "Hulk" - I'd like to know what director thinks that largebudget brainless action flicks like Matrix Reloaded, Hulk, and Terminator 3 should really be "selections." I hated two of those movies and haven't seen Terminator 3 (though I hear it's not too bad. I hope it doesn't suck ass.)

Jonsey, those automatic DVDs are always $20 a pop, aren't they? Methinks thou art exaggerating when you claim $27.

James Bond shows true insanty for 1) wanting that steaming turd, 2) being willing to spend a claimed $27 + cost of shipping it to him, and 3) liking it that much but not having gone out himself and buying it for $15.

As for the scene from the first one - it was because it was convenient to the plot, but the movie wasn't all pretentious and shit, so the audience would allow it. Besides, dudes "warping" at the very beginning of the movie would not be good when we're not supposed to know that it's "not the real world" at the beginning. Ditto why Agent Smith was down on the ground when chasing Trinity at the beginning, letting the human cops get killed, instead of possessing them.

In the first movie, the Agents really didn't seem all that concerned with humans, since there were only a few of 'em running around, with little power and a weird taste for leather. (Way to blend in with a crowd.) All of a sudden, in the sequel, there are hundreds/thousands of humans, partying hardy, yet only the small group of five or so dudes ever actually enter the matrix to try to kick butt, and the machines are suddenly determined to destroy everyone, with the sentinels and shit. Why didn't they do that before Neo came along?

James Bond wrote:ICJ: Mail that sucker to me, if you don't want it. Seriously. I'll private message you my mailing address and you can put it in a package for me. plzkthx.><?></.,?>>?

I threw it in a post office box with "Return to Sender" scrawled on it on the front of the package and "Seriously -- plz to be returning to sender" on the back. I don't believe that the Longmont Post Office System will actually return my items to the sender unless they feel a little bad for me and think that possibly the originator of the return request is a little slow mentally.

Matrix: Revolutions. Well, now. I haven't *seen* it, per se, but I know a person who saw Matrix Reloaded and thought it was the greatest movie evvar except for Underworld, and he saw Matrix: revolutions and was terribly, terribly disappointed. That does not boad very well.

Aaanyways, for the moment, I'm gonna make a gratuitous link to one of my semi-not-quite net pals and say "look at <A HREF="http://www.game-over.net/reviews.php?pa ... =246">This guy</A>" until I can see the movie myself. And no, he's not the same guy I was talking about in the previous paragraph. Go and read, my children.

Ok, well, I do give props to the Lexx ownership, which most Columbia House subscribers would not do. Other than that, though, that's not a thing I'd want to get myself into.

Roody_Yogurt wrote:I'm not sure if someone who subscribes to Columbia House has the right to complain about anything.

Well, hey... I did get like 8 movies for the price of one, with nothing more to buy ever except for four more movies.

Eight "Lexx" episodes are in my possession right now on DVD because of Columbia House. Before Vitriola moved in I killed many a night talking to the image of Xev up on the screen about the decor of my apartment and whether or not I should buy a vacuum. None of that would be possible without Columbia House, so I'll APPRECIATE IT if you step off my grill-of-enabling, dawg!!

Just mark it "Return POS to sender"

Aardvark: well, I can only assume that the agents were trying to be "incogneto" by not teliporting all over the place. Besides, there really was no need. I mean, if they really *had* to find him fast, as in find him before he gets out of their grasp, then they probably would have. My guess is that they didn't know that Morpheous and the gang had found him already, thus no need to use haste. (and before you can say "but what about the "we know you've been in contact with a certain indevidual, who calls him self "Morphious"" line?" I answer: they probably found the cell phone.)

ICJ: Mail that sucker to me, if you don't want it. Seriously. I'll private message you my mailing address and you can put it in a package for me. plzkthx.><?></.,?>>?

Matrix question...

When Neo was on the run from the agents in the first movie, the agents kept popping into bodies of nearby people. (the Wino, the kitchen lady (who threw the knife at him) and others.
My question is..

Why dint the Agents just pop into his office brethren when he first got the call on his fed ex phone? They were certianly looking for him then. I remember him skulking about the cubicles and such. They could have turned into any one of the others, instead they chose to come up the elevator.


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I'm not sure if someone who subscribes to Columbia House has the right to complain about anything.

I forgot to respond to my Columbia House DVD auto selection the other day. They sent a movie and it came to the house yesterday. They dress it up in cardboard to try to trick you into opening it in case you don't know what it is.

I just logged onto my account... it's fucking Matrix: Reloaded for Christ's sake. Jesus... JESUS!

Gotta get that out of my house. $26.99 or whatever it is for that piece of shit? I don't fucking think so. Columbia should have just sent me twenty seven dollars of dogshit in a cardboard mailer. That package would have gotten more consideration for me -- I could at least light it and flee. That's more fun than I was going to get out of permanently owning Reloaded.

Anyone want to explain why people have no hesitation in going to see a movie that they fully expect to be bad, but trepidation and nervousness at seeing a movie that they expect to be good?

'Vark, "The Eye" is playing at the Little this weekend. They need your money more than the Matrix people do. DO THE RIGHT THING.

(Unless you don't like ghost stories, in which case, don't. Unless you went to see Sixth Sense, in which case, go anyways.)

There's also the Coen Bros' latest, Intolerable Cruelty, there's Kill Bill if you haven't seen it yet, and supposedly School of Rock is good although the trailers make it look wretched. I think Lost in Translation is also still playing at the Little.

Movie fans everywhere are counting on you! Don't be a sheep and go see the known-bad movie just because you feel obligated to! Strike a blow against mindless, bloated, pointless CGI-fests!

Lysander: Architect speech, possible worst part of movie. Pointless, stupid, and and TVs full of "alternate" Neos are laughable. The perfect example of the movie taking itself way, way, way too seriously. You are on the right track with your complaints about the movie, though... just follow them through to the logical conclusion: it sucks.

The sound-mixing in Reloaded was absolutley appalling.

The first Matrix had the "Wow! Look what they are doing with the special effects" thing going for it. when I saw the first Freeze in the air during a kick and spin the scene around then speed up and zoom in, I thought 'This is gonna be the start of something BIG'.


WRONGO- Bucko. It was good for exactly ONE movie. Then it got tiresome and kinda lame. now when I go see M3, (prolly this weekend) I expect to see senseless fighting, too much plot explanation, so-so acting and a soundtrack that is TOO FUCKING LOUD!

At least I will have some kind of closure on the whole matrix thing. Unlwess it goes into movie 4 like I have heard rumored.

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Roody_Yogurt wrote:And I think that Keanu and Carrie-Anne's horrible acting nicely gives the trilogy an allegorical, Joseph-Campbell-concept-of-heroes* feel. Sometimes flaws do fit together in just the right way.

I actually thought that in Episode II, Hayden Christensen worked really well. I once, in high school, dated an overly sensitive, dramatic, emotional jackass; he acted just like that, and he was the type to do exactly what went on in that movie. It worked for me there, but not in TM:Reloaded. I didn't even mind Neo and Trinity's acting so much as I just wanted Morpheus to shut the hell up, and Link and his pouty wife to plot device themselves right off the screen.

Right. Since I appear to be the only person on this board who genuinly likes Matrix Reloaded, I'll feild this. I watched Reloaded a couple weeks ago, and now that I've seen it a second time, I must say that I can kinda see what people were talking about when they said it sucked. The three things that really teed me off about it were: 1: the 1000 Agent Smith fight. Why the fuck doesn't he just fly off at the beginning of the fight? Seriously. That goes way, way, waaaaay too long.
2: Tank. The bastards killed off one of the coolest characters in the first movie who made it out alove in a transition. The fuck? Seriously. He deserves more than that, goddamnit. And Link sucks ass. Not that way.
3: The dance/sex scene. I thought this was dumb when I saw the thing in the first place. Seriously. What the fuck is that there for? Words cannot describe how completely pointless I feel that scene is.

But I still find the movie to be a good one, mainly because of the speech with the architect at the end of the movie. Oh, and if they don't explain why Neo can knock out sentinels in the real world, and it better not be some "smith is part of Neo so he has wild and discordant powers TM! Neo rox0rsroflmaowtfusuxwanncybar!1!111!!!" in Revolutions, or else I will go postal.