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Post by Ice Cream Jonsey » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:29 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-GfLydmTMY[/youtube]

JUSTICE LIKE LIGHTNING!
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Post by pinback » Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:11 pm

I watch a lot of Liveleak, and have learned a few things:

1. Brazilian cops only get stuff done when they are off duty.

2. If you die on the sidewalk in China, which you will, everyone will just keep walking around you like nothing's happening.

3. 100% of all Russian cars will be involved in an accident every day.

4. Every single motorcyclist on the face of the Earth is a complete asshole.

Except for Robb, I mean. Sorry, Robb!
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Post by Ice Cream Jonsey » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:26 pm

Waitasec. The truck driver threw a can at the motorcyclist. And the motorcyclist is the problem?
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Post by Billy Mays » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:45 pm

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:And the motorcyclist is the problem?
Yes.

The purpose of the middle finger is to tell somebody to "go fuck yourself", and it is a very reasonable gesture among adults. Everything after that was 100% provoked by the complete asshole motorcyclist.

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Post by pinback » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:46 pm

Billy Mays is correct. I always liked that guy.

All of this was predicated on the asshole motorcyclist's psychotic reaction to getting flipped off.

I know in the BRO ERA, it's considered wrong to just let shit slide and act like a reasonable goddamn human being, which is what motorcyclists (except for Robb!) absolutely refuse to do in any video I've ever seen them in.

(Also, what is not shown is why the van is flipping him off, which, hey, who knows, but it was almost definitely because the MOTO-BRO did something obnoxious.)
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Post by Flack » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:35 am

That motorcycle rider was braver than me. If a guy driving a minivan is willing to throw a can at you, he's probably willing to slam on his brakes and cause you to crash or sideswipe you off the road. "Vroom, vroom! Yes, vengeance is miiiiiiiii oh motherfucker!"

One time this lady cut me off and when I honked at her she slammed on her brakes as if to say, "I'm sorry that I almost accidentally killed you, now I'm going to do it on purpose." I followed her all the way to her house and drove by real slow. A couple of days later I went back. She had a Jack in the Box antenna ball on her car's antenna and I used a Sharpie to draw X's over Jack's eyes. She got the message loud and clear that day, and the message was, eat less meat you horrible driver.
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Post by Ice Cream Jonsey » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:47 am

Billy Mays wrote:
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:And the motorcyclist is the problem?
Yes.

The purpose of the middle finger is to tell somebody to "go fuck yourself", and it is a very reasonable gesture among adults. Everything after that was 100% provoked by the complete asshole motorcyclist.
So, if you give the guy the finger and he gives it back to you, the correct response is to throw a CAN at the guy who you will kill if you hit him correctly. Gotcha.
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Post by Ice Cream Jonsey » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:50 am

pinback wrote:All of this was predicated on the asshole motorcyclist's psychotic reaction to getting flipped off.

I know in the BRO ERA, it's considered wrong to just let shit slide and act like a reasonable goddamn human being, which is what motorcyclists (except for Robb!) absolutely refuse to do in any video I've ever seen them in.
In the REDDIT ERA, whenever someone getting picked on defends themselves, it's the guy getting picked on that is in the wrong.

As far as I can tell, from the video:

- Redneck in some piece of shit truck flips off the motorcyclist.

- Motorcyclist gives it back

- Redneck THROWS A CAN at the motorcyclist.

From there, well, like I said: justice.

You know what would have ended it? The redneck not THROWING THE FUCKING CAN. I'm amazed you guys are taking that side. Actually, having seen the Internet evolve over the years, I'm not.
(Also, what is not shown is why the van is flipping him off, which, hey, who knows, but it was almost definitely because the MOTO-BRO did something obnoxious.)
Okay, going into semi-serious mode, you are absolutely correct about this and it changes the entire dynamic.

You are also correct about the fact that I usually post videos of motorcyclists being a-holes.
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Post by Billy Mays » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:03 am

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:So, if you give the guy the finger and he gives it back to you, the correct response is to throw a CAN at the guy who you will kill if you hit him correctly. Gotcha.

Yes, the only thing the van occupants are guilty of in this video is not hitting him correctly.

Everything that occurred in the first 8 seconds was completely reasonable. The van occupants civilly stated their desire for the motorcyclist to go fuck himself, and the motorcyclist very reasonably responded with his desire for the van occupants to go fuck themselves instead. All of this was very reasonable in a civilized, adult society.

Where the motorcyclist takes the full responsibility, like pinback mentioned, is when he decided to not let it end right there where reasonable adults would just accept a difference of opinions, but rather punched the acceleration to dangerous levels and thereby endangering ALL vehicles AND potential pedestrians in the area.

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Post by pinback » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:04 am

Robb, you are leaving out one crucial part of the story. In your version, "he gets flipped off, so he flips them off, and they throw a can at him", you are correct that the van guy is the bad guy.

However, in between "he flips them off" and "they throw a can at him", you're leaving out him super-aggressively (and dangerously) gunning the bike to catch up to the van and ride alongside it, for the purpose of what, I have no idea, continuing to yell at them and flip them off.

That's an act of hostility and obnoxiousness well deserving of a can to the face.
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Post by pinback » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:04 am

Heh, Billy and I were typing essentially the same response at the same time.

LOVE that guy!
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Post by Ice Cream Jonsey » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:18 am

Billy Mays wrote:Yes, the only thing the van occupants are guilty of in this video is not hitting him correctly.
The van guys are the heroes! Got it. I think I'm beginning to understand.
All of this was very reasonable in a civilized, adult society.
Agreed. Reason prevailed here.
Where the motorcyclist takes the full responsibility, like pinback mentioned, is when he decided to not let it end right there where reasonable adults would just accept a difference of opinions, but rather punched the acceleration to dangerous levels and thereby endangering ALL vehicles AND potential pedestrians in the area.
Whoa, he accelerated! I can see how that is far, far more dangerous than having a goddamn can thrown. I can see that if I were living in Opposite World. Seeing how a quick look to the mirror confirms I'm a heartbreaker, I'm sorry to reveal to you all that we are in fact in Earth-Prime. I'm prime!
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Post by pinback » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:20 am

What was the purpose of accelerating to catch up with the van?
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Post by Ice Cream Jonsey » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:21 am

pinback wrote:However, in between "he flips them off" and "they throw a can at him", you're leaving out him super-aggressively (and dangerously) gunning the bike to catch up to the van and ride alongside it, for the purpose of what, I have no idea, continuing to yell at them and flip them off.

That's an act of hostility and obnoxiousness well deserving of a can to the face.
I guess that is where we differ. I don't see how someone can accelerate aggressively. They're in a truck or a van or whatever. At any point they can simply scootch to the right and kill the motorcyclist. They shouldn't be intimidated by acceleration.

OK, we're not going to find common ground here. Can we all at least admit that the rock shattering the window was funny in the context of these idiots being trapped together? The driver's all, "Hey, I didn't do anything!" Ha! Ha ha!

Ha ha?
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Post by Ice Cream Jonsey » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:22 am

pinback wrote:What was the purpose of accelerating to catch up with the van?
What is the purpose of anything?
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Post by Ice Cream Jonsey » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:23 am

I'd also like to note that I am proud that this base has gone from "Help ICJ not die on his bike" to a "Look at these assholes" base. I was worried we wouldn't have enough content for an entire base, but browsing Youtube, all these people seem to get mad at people on motorcycles for no documented reason, so I think there's enough content for the long haul.
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Post by pinback » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:24 am

Would you say there's enough "gray area" in the video that posting it under the guise of "YEAAAH, LOOK AT THIS DUDE OWN THESE FUCKERS!" might give one pause to consider whether the poster was a raving psychopath?
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Post by pinback » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:32 am

By the way, here's another video by the same guy:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swv9aPVU8gw[/youtube]

Major-league asshole confirmed.
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Post by Billy Mays » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:32 am

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:I don't see how someone can accelerate aggressively.

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Post by Flack » Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:44 pm

pinback wrote:What was the purpose of accelerating to catch up with the van?
To see if they had a Jack in the Box antenna ball topper.
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