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The 2013 / 2014 Oklahoma City Thunder Thread
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:33 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Putting the other one in best of was meant as a compliment.
It was meant as a compliment!
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:12 pm
by pinback
Odin Lloyd is dead.
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:23 am
by lethargic
pinback wrote:Odin Lloyd is dead.
WHAT HAPPENED??
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:03 am
by lethargic
I don't get the Thunder. Are they broke?
I look at the teams in the West and several of them have taken steps to make themselves better. Some significantly better. Meanwhile the Thunder have done nothing.
I have seen several players go during free agency I would've bent over backwards to get in OKC if I was running that team.
1 - Tyreke Evans
I don't understand that after losing Kevin Martin they seem to just be trying to find another scorer. If I was running that team I'd be looking for defense. They have scoring up the ass with Westbrook and Durant. I never saw them come up when it came to Evans who would've been my #1 target if I was running the team. The guy is one of the best perimeter defenders in the league. Slotting him between Durant and Westbrook, he'd still give you 15-17 PPG while also giving you a shutdown type guy you can throw on the other team's best perimeter player, freeing up the other two to focus on scoring. He'd be an upgrade over Sefolaofohasohasa and Lamb that's for sure.
2 - Ron Artest
Kevin Martin plays D about as good as I can and now they want another guy like that in Mike Miller. But they never came up in the Artest discussions. I know Ron Artest wanted to play in New York, but I would've jumped all over that guy and try to entice him to come to OKC. He's older and not what he used to be, but he can come off the bench and till defend and whip people's ass. I think a team like the Thunder could use a nice bruising asshole like that.
Actually what the team could use is Charles Oakley but they don't make him anymore.
3 - Al Jefferson
I think it's embarrassing that a team that scores the way the Thunder do, doesn't have a single player getting 9-10 rebounds a night. Durant should not have to lead the team in rebounds. That your starting PF and C can only average 6-7 rebounds is deplorable.
Meanwhile Al Jefferson goes to the Bobcats for only 3 million more than what you're paying Perkins? Shut the front door.
How good would this team be with Durant and Westbrook scoring from the perimeter and Al Jefferson adding in 18 in the paint and 10 rebounds a night?? That big 3 would be as good as the Heat's big 3 in my book.
I don't even like the Thunder but they're really annoying me. The way they're running the team reminds me of the way Cleveland ran the team when they had LeBron. They didn't seem to have a plan of how to build around him so they just grabbed whoever they could get willy nilly. I look at that team and see the plan easy as pie. GIVE ME THE JOB.
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:32 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
lethargic would not have made the Harden trade, and he would have let a goddamn shark loose on the court at one point during the season.
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:03 pm
by lethargic
My only problem with the Harden trade is what they got for him. When the best asset you're getting is a past his prime Kevin Martin for a blossoming superstar still on his rookie contract, you friggin suck. That trade would've only made sense had it cleared a bunch of money for them to use but it didn't even do that.
I would've tried to package Perkins with Harden and only accepted draft picks/expiring contracts in return. That would've left them with at least 14 million to use in free agency to go out and find a new 3rd guy.
BTW, growing up my sports dream was never to be a great player with lots of money. My dream was to be the GM. The off season is way more fun to me than the actual season. haha
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:36 am
by Flack
I don't know that much about how things work but basically the way I understand it is we have no budget so we pretty much draft really new guys and really old guys because that's all we can afford as long as we have both Durant and Westbrook. We got Harden for like eight dollars or something the first season and when he blew up there was no way we could keep both him and Ibaka. I understand having three shooting guards may not have been the best lineup especially considering what Ibaka gives on defense, but if the guy can't contribute buckets then I don't know what we're going to do. Everybody here likes Perkins for his personality and his character but there are two things that suck about him, his offense and his defense. He's the worst big man ever. All he does is get in fights after people score on him several times. Entertaining to watch but not a great overall tactic.
Getting Martin and Lamb seemed like a good plan at the time. Now Martin's gone and Lamb fizzled. I'm not sure bringing in Mike the Bad Back Miller is the answer to what we need at the moment.
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:34 pm
by lethargic
It wasn't totally them being cheap. Harden was also pretty greedy. They wanted to pay 55 and he wanted 60. Seriously?
Also I read that there is some provision in the new CBA that limits teams to only 2 five year contracts at a time. With an extra year they could've made the money work but with their 2 five year deals already taken up they couldn't do it.
But that still doesn't explain why they were able to offer 4 yrs/55 mil to him but haven't been able to use that money on anybody else.
Ahh, who cares. With Granger back the Pacers are taking the championship this year anyway. They got within 1 game of the finals without Granger, now they're gonna have him too? With another year of improvement from George and Hibbert. BOOK IT!!!!
I saw Lamb playing in the summer league game the other day. He lit those d-leaguers up with his 14 points. Help is on the way!
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:03 am
by Flack
You can't lead a lamb to the hoop, or something like that.
Last night I watched "Kobe Doin' Work" which was released in 2009. As much as I despise Kobe Bryant, I enjoy watching basketball players talk about basketball. It's basically like a DVD commentary track with him commenting on a 2008 game between the Lakers and the Spurs. They have him mic'ed up so you can hear everything he's saying on the floor, plus he is in the sound booth offering up audio as well.
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:53 am
by lethargic
Yesterday I saw Dwayne Wade's insane wife on Inside Edition pissing and moaning about wanting more money. Dwayne Wade told her "I didn't see you out there making them free throws" and he is now my favorite person alive.
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:58 am
by Flack
I completely support the division of alimony based on a game of Horse.
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:48 pm
by Flack
Looks like the Thunder are set to enter the playoffs with the second best record in the west behind San Antonio (again). I wish I could say I thought this was our year but I don't think it is. In the off season we need to send some of our players to rebounding school. And the rest need to go to quit throwing up 3 pointers school.
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:24 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
How do the Spurs do it? I am less than a casual fan. I don't know how they do it.
Is Gregg Popovich the greatest coach of all-time?
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:15 am
by Flack
He's a good coach, but Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Marco Belinelli, and Tim Duncan certainly make it easy on him. All I can say is that they are consistent. They are good at defense, they are good at passing, they are good at shooting. They are just relentless. While other teams rely on 3 pointers and free throws and other tactics to catch up or take leads, the Spurs just grind you down with rock solid defense and passing the ball until they get an open shot, over and over.
The Thunder game last night was throwing up all these statistics about how few teams have had back to back 60 game winning seasons. The Thunder had 58 wins with 2 games to go and was playing 2 shitty teams, the Pelicans and Detroit. Well they lost to the Pelicans which is embarrassing on two or three different levels, so no 60 win season for us.
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:57 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
People also think that "Pop" is a prick.
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:34 pm
by Flack
Well the stupid Thunder are now 1-1 against the Memphis Grizzlies. We almost blew a 25 point lead in game one (Memphis outscored OKC 31-13 in the 3rd quarter) and in tonigh's game Memphis beat us in overtime.
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 8:15 am
by Flack
The Thunder beat the Grizzlies and then beat the Clippers. Both were series that could have gone either way and at times seemed they would not go our way.
Now we're up against the Spurs. The Thunder got beat -- no, embarrassed -- by the Spurs in Texas without Ibaka. Then Ibaka returned and the Thunder took the last two games in OKC. This is definitely a series of who is going to beat the other team in their home court first. Also if Ibaka hurts his calf again it's all over.
I say rookie Stephen Adams takes Perk's position within 1-2 years.