Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:Tdarcos wrote:Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:1) Atlas Shrugged is [stupidity deleted]
And you have read this book how many times?
Once, in high school.
Tdarcos wrote:Your comment shows your complete ignorance and stupidity. It was unnecessary and rude, and I am sure you
Rude? RUDE? Christ, Paul,
Ayn Rand is not coming to this thread. She's not alive and on the Internet and able to read English well enough to see that. How the fuck was it "rude"?
It was insulting to me and you did it on purpose just to bait me into reacting. You didn't make a statement in which you expressed, in ordinary terms, the reasons you didn't like the book. You proceeded to trash the book based upon a number of completely irrelevant points.
Richard Wagner was a wife beater; it doesn't detract from the fact he wrote a number of very significant pieces of music. I point out in an earlier article how Martin Luther King Jr. was a womanizer (and thus a hypocrite for being a religious figure while cheating on his wife) but this doesn't have anything to do with his actions in the civil rights movement.
Using the term "Jew hating" to apply to the author of the work is a "tar them both with the same brush" sort of irrelevant comment which has nothing to do with the book. Presuming you have knowledge of this in the case of Rand herself, explain to me exactly where in the book does it have even a single anti-Semitic comment?
This is why the comment is rude. It's more-or-less pure vitriol, and many of the points have absolutely nothing to do with the story.
The board changes the name "T.urner" [without the dot] into "Filippe J. Suckmonger" so I am inserting one. There's another example, should I claim your game Cryptozookeeper is a bad game because you run a BBS that changes the name Turn.er into Filippe J. Suckmonger? How is this relevant to the quality of that game?
Have you ever read
The T.urner Diaries, the story of a look back from 100 years in the future to tell the story of Nat T.urner, the hero of the White Supremacist movement? I have, and in that book it demonizes Jews, and calling that book "Jew hating" would be a reasonable comment. Calling that book racist, since it demonizes blacks to the point of showing how when food supplies are low they resort to cannibalism, is also a valid comment. (I actually thought the book was hilarious; every target the book's author hates gets the worst white-wash treatment of vitriol and malice he can think of.)
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:The only thing I am able to piece together is that you are planning on writing a sequel to it. I don't get it. You feel ownership over something called "Atlas Rolled" or whatever.
You want to say you don't like the book, fine. You want to say that you didn't like this, this, this and this parts, fine. But you went much more than a mere opinion about the book, you proceeded to trash the book based on a whole bunch of irrelevant and clearly inflammatory comments, most of which have absolutely nothing to do with the book or its story, and nothing but a slam at the author. Most of these tend to be by people who don't like her ideas but can't argue against them (probably because they know she is right), so since her ideas are invulnerable to attack, they attack her personally.
Note how in earlier articles here I mentioned that I did not like the movie
Fargo in which I said that the movie was slow, among other things I disliked about it. Note I did not say I didn't like the movie because the Cohen brothers were no-talent hacks, or that it was proven that
Fargo was garbage because
Raising Arizona sucked or because the actual incident wasn't in Fargo, North Dakota, but in Brainerd, Minnesota. I didn't raise irrelevant issues with respect to my comment about
Fargo. You failed in this respect, and thus you lost mine.
I have written a book (I've actually written four), called "Instrument of God", and, of course, the whole 3 meg PDF, 720 page tome is
available to download and read by anyone who cares to do so.
If you read the book and said you didn't like it, that's one thing. If you read the book and didn't like the overt sexuality in the book and the characters' open promiscuity, wife swapping and depictions of sex with underage girls and child rape, that's another. If you didn't like the book because you disagreed with its depiction of what the afterlife is compared to the typical opinions of what heaven is supposed to be, that's yet another reasonable opinion. If you read part of it and said you had to stop because it's unreadable, that's another. (This was the state I had with Salman Rushdie's
The Satanic Verses, I found the book essentially unreadable after about 30 pages.)
All of these would be reasonable opinions of my book even if I didn't agree with them.
If, on the other hand, you declared my book was garbage because it was written by an obese, diabetic man in a wheelchair who doesn't even have a girlfriend, how exactly does this comment have anything to do with the content of the book? How does a comment like that represent anything other than an attempt to smear the book based on comments about the author?
