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Congratulations to the Arizona Cardinals
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:02 pm
by pinback
This pleases me for a couple of reasons!
1. Those plucky little troopers are just impossible to hate, at least now that they are out of the NFC East.
2. How is Kurt Warner not in the list of Top Five QBs Ever after this?
3. Now I have someone to root for in the Super Bowl. The thought of two Pennsylvania teams fighting it out for the top spot fills my innards with bile and ooze and sends me running for the can, whenst unfortunate substances would most definitely blast forth from every possible exit point on my person.
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:34 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Well, your top five quarterbacks would include Otto Graham, Joe Montana, John Elway, Dan Marino and Johnny Unitas. So, he's gonna have to knock one of those guys out, and then people like Jim Kelly, Steve Young, Frank Tarkenton and Peyton Manning.
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:39 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
ESPN does great work. Speaking of the Cardinals:
The last NFC team since the 1970 merger to make it this far, Arizona also is the first team with nine wins in the regular season to make the Super Bowl since the 1979 Rams lost to the Steelers.
I really enjoyed that one time the Saints and Lions went to the Super Bowl. What? Maybe they meant they were the last NFC team to go to the Championship game. The timeline is a little screwy there.
Man, I never thought they'd go to the Super Bowl before the Saints. WHO THOUGHT THIS??
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:27 pm
by pinback
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:Otto Graham
Who?
Joe Montana
Sure.
John Elway
In the immortal words of my dearly departed father:
"FUCK YOU, Elway!" - David Parrish, January 31, 1988
Dan Marino
LaaaaYOOOzer.
Johnny Unitas
What EVER, man.
Look, the top five QBs of all time are, in no order:
Joe Montana
Tom Brady
Kurt Warner
Doug Williams
Billy Kilmer
Jim Kelly, Steve Young, Frank Tarkenton and Peyton Manning.
Seriously, you wouldn't pick Warner in a fight against any of these Oreo-licking maggots?
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:36 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Kilmer and Doug Williams. Yeah, those were the two I forgot about.
The top 5 quarterbacks of all time are:
1. Doug Williams
2. Billy Killmer
3. Heath Shuler (one of the few NFL qbs to be elected to something)
4. Efren Herrera (deadly on fake field goal passes)
5. Kurt Warner
No, but seriously. Elway, Marino, Montana, Graham and Unitas. In order. To round out the rest of the top 10, I'd go Manning, Tarkenton, Brady, Favre and Kelly.
The problem with Kurt Warner is that he seriously fucked up his hand, which spiraled him into obscurity with the Giants and, before now, Cardinals. He's played 16 games in a season twice. He's had three dominant seasons, including this one. Also, let's not forget about the list of quarterbacks that have lost a playoff game to the fucking Saints. It's Warner and McNabb and nobody else.
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:41 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
On the other hand, Warner brought the goddamn ARIZONA CARDINALS to the Super Bowl. I would have wagered that such a thing would have not happened in our lifetimes, nor the lifetimes of anyone we currently knew. (If someone here were to have a baby in week, deal'd been off, in other words.)
4 seasons in football was not enough for Terrell Davis.
5 was enough for Gale Sayers.
ALthough he played for 12 years, Sandy Koufax is in the baseball hall of fame for what he did in 12 seasons.
They let girls and Russians into the basketball hall of fame, so there is no comparison there.
Warner needs to do what he did this year two more times before he goes into the Hall of Fame.
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:46 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
In researching the above post, I went to the Wikipedia page for Sandy Koufax. I'd like to explain to you all, what my brother - a Seattle Mariner fan - has had to go through.
Before the 1966 season began, Koufax and Drysdale met separately with Dodger GM Buzzie Bavasi to negotiate their contracts for the upcoming year. After Koufax's meeting, he met Drysdale for dinner and complained that Bavasi was using Drysdale against him in the negotiations, asking, "How come you want that much when Drysdale only wants this much?"[52] Drysdale responded that Bavasi did the same thing with him, using Koufax against him. Drysdale's first wife, Ginger Drysdale, suggested that they negotiate together to get what they wanted. They demanded $1 million, divided equally over the next three years, or $167,000 each for the next three seasons. Both players were represented by an entertainment lawyer, J. William Hayes, which was unusual during an era when players were not represented by agents.[53][54] At the time, Willie Mays was Major League Baseball's highest paid player at $125,000 per year and multi-year contracts were very unusual.[55]
Koufax and Drysdale didn't report to spring training in February. Instead, they both signed to appear in the movie Warning Shot, starring David Janssen. Drysdale was going to play a TV commentator and Koufax was going to play a detective. Meanwhile, the Dodgers waged a public relations battle against them. After four weeks, Koufax gave Drysdale the go-ahead to negotiate new deals for the both of them. Koufax ended up getting $125,000 and Drysdale $110,000. They rejoined the team in the last week of spring training.[56]
My brother's team was recently run by Bill Bavasi. Bavasi is one of the worst general managers in the world, and was fired last season. He is miserably incompetent and showed absolutely no ability to put together a quality baseball team. He signed a second baseman to play DH for the Mariners, for the fuck of Christ.
Bavasi's father tried FUCKING AROUND WITH SANDY KOUFAX, who is the GREATEST LEFT-HANDED PITCHER of all-time. (Anyone saying otherwise is talking about longevity.)
KOUFAX. Fucking SANY KOUFAX was not playing well enough for fucking Bill Bavasi's GODDAMN FATHER.
Unfuckingreal.
Sorry, brother. I know the Mariners will rebound with their new general manager. They can't not.
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:13 pm
by pinback
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:On the other hand, Warner brought the goddamn ARIZONA CARDINALS to the Super Bowl.
This really was my point here. He may not be even in the 50 most talented QB list, but if you take the FUCKING CARDINALS to the FUCKING SUPER BOWL, boom. Top 5.
If Brees gets the Saints there, TOP 3.
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:07 am
by Knuckles the CLown
I heard Jerome Bettis once had a layover in Tampa.
Great job Arizona, not prepare to get home jobbed by the NFL who can't fathom the Steelers losing a super bowl.. unless they are playing the Cowboys.
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:46 am
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Here is the other thing. I try to congratulate my friends when their team goes to the Super Bowl for the first time. Not only can I not do this for the Cards, I've never IN MY LIFE met a fan of the team.
I mean... I played flag football with a Lions fan... the baby of a friend of mine is growing up in Houston, so when the Texans go I can send a card... Bruce lives near St. Louis, but I don't believe he follows football, and if he did, the Rams are there now.
I don't know any Cards fans.
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:43 pm
by bruce
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:Bruce lives near St. Louis, but I don't believe he follows football, and if he did, the Rams are there now.
I don't, really.
I used to like baseball, until, you know, STEROID CITY.
If only there were a league of hot chicks playing 80s videogames against each other. That I would watch.
Bruce
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:05 pm
by AArdvark
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:11 pm
by Knuckles the CLown
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:Here is the other thing. I try to congratulate my friends when their team goes to the Super Bowl for the first time. Not only can I not do this for the Cards, I've never IN MY LIFE met a fan of the team.
I mean... I played flag football with a Lions fan... the baby of a friend of mine is growing up in Houston, so when the Texans go I can send a card... Bruce lives near St. Louis, but I don't believe he follows football, and if he did, the Rams are there now.
I don't know any Cards fans.
Tim Starwald, who you are in my fantasy football and baseball leagues with, happens to be an Arizona Cardinals fan.
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:07 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
... How can I best un-know him?