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The 2008 U.S. Open Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:58 am
by pinback
Welcome, one and all, to the world-famous 2008 U.S. Open Thread!

This week is U.S. Open week! The toughest test of the four majors in professional golf. The one tournament which, more than any other, turns ultra-rich, self-important white guys who put a stupid ball in a hole for a living into sobbing, whining little crybabies who need their MAMA because the goddamn GREEN is too fast and the goddamn ROUGH is too tall, you friggin' whining little babies!

As with the previous, world-famous Masters thread, this thread is less about the U.S. Open and more about TIGER "ELDRICK" WOODS, and how he does.

At the beginning of the year, one would have had to say that we could just skip this entire thread and chalk up another W for old Tigs there. Look!

- It's being played at Torrey Pines, where he never ever loses.
- He's playing the best of his life.
- Nobody else had a chance.

But times have changed! Because!

- This is his first tournament back after having KNEE SURGERY and being out for two months!
- That's pretty much the main way in which times have changed!

So our attitude this time is going to be a little different. Gone will be the constant teeth-gnashing brought upon by the 2008 Masters. Gone are the sleepless nights and microscopically-detailed analysis of how every shot, breeze, or random bird flying across the fairway affects Tiger's chances. Why?

Because I do not think Tiger has a chance this week.

Almost unthinkable! But start thinking it, my friends and polite acquaintances! I just think it's too much to ask him to win a goddamn major after being out so long.

Bad news, you say?

Not at all! Since he is not expected to do anything, we may take a lighthearted approach this year, and realize that anything good that happens is just gravy on the cake! No expectations = no stress!

And that's what the 2008 U.S. Open will be all about for us in this thread. No stress! Unlike all of the whiny crybabies sobbing their way around the course!

Round 1 -- NO STRESS Round 1 -- begins on Thursday!

Let's all enjoy the 2008 U.S. Open, and the 2008 U.S. Open Thread, free from any anxiety or tension.

Ahhh!

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:45 am
by pinback
Well, he doubled the first hole.

See you at the British Open, everyone!

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:27 am
by pinback
He has recovered from the double bogey at the first, so the thread is back on, and we'll have First-Round No-Stress Analysis coming up after the completion of the first round.

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:17 pm
by pinback
2008 U.S. Open First Round Analysis
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Caveats to this analysis include the fact that all I've seen is the scores going up and down all day, haven't seen any of it, and also several of the players are not quite done, but I sure as fuck am not going to wait until every last loser is in the clubhouse before I come with some ANALYSIS.

As always, this analysis is concerned solely with how the events of the day affect Tiger Woods and his chances (however slim) of winning. Which as I've already said, he won't do. With that in mind, let's get to the ANALYSIS.

ANALYSIS SUMMARY

When Tiger began the day with a double-bogey, it seemed certain that this was just going to be a lost tournament. However, when he battled back with three birdies to get into a tie for sixth, the miraculous seemed possible. Then he got his second double-bogey of the day, fell back, and things seemed less rosy.

As it stands now, he is at +1, tied for 24th. However, that sounds worse than it is, because there are only two players currently better than -2, meaning that he is within 3 of anyone with a serious shot at the thing. He will certainly clean his round up as the week goes on, and if those doubles had just been regular bogeys, he'd be tied for 9th right now, right there with the leaders.

So, in truth, I have to say that this is just about, or in fact maybe even a little better than, right where I expected him to be. There is plenty of hope, leading into round 2.

Now let's do some in-depth analysis of the competitors, and the threat level they present to Mr. Woods. As always, for the purposes of this analysis, we're going to dispense with anyone behind him, because even with a knee injury, nobody is going to overtake the MAN.

LEADER: Kevin Streelman (-4): ...BAAAHhahahaa!! KEVIN STREELMAN?! WHO?!?! I join the rest of the golf community, as well as Kevin Streelman's family, when I say, "Who the hell is Kevin Streelman??!" THREAT LEVEL: HAhahaha. Oh, and in between the time I started talking about Kevin Streelman and stopped, he bogeyed his last hole, so now he's down to -3.

CO-LEADER: Justin Hicks (-3): JUSTIN HICKS!! I think they are making these names up. There is no such person as "Kevin Streelman", and there definitely is no such person as "Justin Hicks". THREAT LEVEL: N/A (made up person)

The following golfers are currently at -2:

Rocco Mediate: Reasonably well-known middle-of-the-roader. Has never, and will never, win a major. THREAT LEVEL: LOW

Stuart Appleby: Staunch competitor, but every time he sees a limo it reminds him that his wife got run over by one, which affects his emotional stability. THREAT LEVEL: LOW

Eric Axley: More like Eric Neverheardofley!! THREAT LEVEL: NONE

Ernie Els: Multiple major winner, one of the best of the generation. There's no way around this one, except to say: THREAT LEVEL: HIGH

Geoff Ogilvy: Major winner, not quite elite, but worthy of respect. THREAT LEVEL: MEDIUM-HIGH

Ross Fisher: Probably a close friend of Kevin Streelman and Justin Hicks. THREAT LEVEL: WHO?

Rickie Fowler: Fowler? I hardly know 'er! (Or him!) THREAT LEVEL: NONE

The following golfers are at -1:

Robert Karlsson: His name is Robert Karlsson. His name is Robert Karlsson. THREAT LEVEL: NONE

Lee Westwood: Had a nice stretch there in the late 90s or early 2000s. Had a nice round today. That'll be just about it for him. THREAT LEVEL: LOW

Robert Allenby: Another consistent middle-of-the-roader. Could this be his week to stand out? Sure! Probably not, though. THREAT LEVEL: LOW

The following golfers are at EVEN:

Patrick Sheehan: Seen his name plenty of times. Never at the top of the leaderboard. THREAT LEVEL: NONE

Joe Ogilvie: One "Ogilvy" is quite enough, and Joe ain't the good one. THREAT LEVEL: NONE

Phil Mickelson: FUCK YOU LEFTY. THREAT LEVEL: VERY HIGH

Vijay Singh: FUCK YOU VIJAY. THREAT LEVEL: HIGH

Carl Petersson: I have no idea. I'm sick of all these guys with two "s"es in their last names, though. THREAT LEVEL: LOW

Andres Romero: Hey, this is one of those no-names from the Masters thread, isn't it? How'd he do in that one, I forget? THREAT LEVEL: NONE

Luke Donald: Keeps threatening to break through and fulfill his potential. Keeps not doing it. THREAT LEVEL: MEDIUM

John Merrick: Two "r"s is better than two "s"es, but I still ain't heard of him. THREAT LEVEL: NONE

There are a million guys at +1, so to speed things along, I'll just group them by threat levels:

+1 THREAT LEVEL HIGH
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Stewart Cink

+1 THREAT LEVEL MEDIUM
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None

+1 THREAT LEVEL LOW
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David Toms
Davis Love III
J.B. Holmes
Camilo Villegas
Woody Austin
Hunter Mahan
Scott Verplank

+1 THREAT LEVEL SUCK
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Kyle Stanley
D.J. Trahan
Casey Wittenberg
Dustin Johnson (sounds like a euphemism for masturbating)
Oliver Wilson
Jon Mills
Ian Leggatt

NOTE: Since not all of the players are done, this thread may be slightly erroneous by the time you read it. If this is the case, I blame you, not me.

SEE YOU AFTER NO-STRESS ROUND 2!

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:21 pm
by pinback
See, in the time it took me to write that, Tiger went from tied for 24th to tied for 20th. I'd imagine a few more will drop off before bedtime.

So things are fine, I think. I think things are fine.

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:49 pm
by pinback
2008 U.S. Open Second Round Analysis
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Hello! And welcome back to the No-Stress 2008 U.S. Open thread! It's called the No-Stress thread because, unlike other major threads, we are coming into this one with no stress, and no expectations! Sure, we may root like heck for Tiger in other major threads like this, but this time, we're just gonna kick back in our Barcalounger, let all the tensions of the workaday world dissolve, and talk some golf, fully realizing that Tiger is not going to win this one, so we don't have to worry about it! Such a relief!

With that in mind, let's get to the analysis of Round 2!

ANALYSIS SUMMARY
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After Tiger battled to a middling position yesterday, we were actually given a ray of hope. All we had to do was hope that he didn't double-bogey his first hole again! Well, he managed to avoid that, but replaced the double with two single bogeys over the first three holes. At this point, sitting at +3, our lack of expectations for this week were fully justified. Not every week is going to be your week!

Then, somehow (I say this less out of amazement and more out of, I just didn't get to see it and don't know how it happened), he managed to EAGLE his fourth hole to get back even for the day! More hope!

But then just as quickly, those two shots were squandered away with consecutive bogeys at 7 and 8, and once again we went back into full NO-STRESS living!

Then he made the turn.

To call his back nine legendary is perhaps an overstatement, but also perhaps not one. Regardless, by the end of his five-under back-nine torching, Tiger now stands TIED FOR SECOND, one shot back of the leader, with two other <s>assholes</s> competitors.

Obviously this is way more than we expected. But in keeping with the theme, we are going to keep this a NO-STRESS thread, because although he had a fine day, we still do not think that Tiger is going to win. Torrey Pines is just too tough, and Tiger is facing too much to be able to keep this pace up over the weekend. He won't win! So we can relax.

If he were to win this, would it be his most incredible victory in his unbelievably phenomenal career? By far, yes. Is this way better than anyone in their right mind could have possibly thought he'd do to this point? Of course!! IS HE ON THE FUCKING CUSP OF THE MOST AMAZING THING EVER TO HAPPEN IN SPORTS?!?!? YES, GODDAMMIT!!

But we are going to stay low-key about it!

Just because if he's able to play his normal game over the weekend he will fucking torch the lot of these simpering, oozing fat fucking bastards cluttering up the rest of the course with their filth, we are not raising our expectations, or our blood pressure! It's just a nice weekend of golf ahead, which we'll enjoy regardless of the outcome! And hey, if Tiger manages to obliterate the scumbags standing in his way, thereby completing the most amazing fucking comeback in the history of human endeavor, so much the better!

But either way, we're totally cool with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO FUCKING STRESS HERE!!!!!!!!!

I'd go about individually analyzing the competitors who stand even with or ahead of Tiger, but there's only fucking three of them, so I will expand this a bit, look at those within one or two strokes, and then making special mention of a few players further back who warrant that special attention, especially if they are FAT, LEFT-HANDED SMUG FUCKING LOSERS.

Now, let's look at the competitors!

LEADER: Stuart Appleby (-3): Well. He nailed a 45-foot bomb at the last to grab sole possession of the lead. He's a solid, quality player. I'm more nervous about him than anyone left near the top of the leaderboard. But lets look at his track record at the U.S. Open since the turn of the century! Let's see, he's played 8 times. He's MISSED THE CUT 6 of those times, and his best finish in the other two was a tie for 26th, last year. Could this be his magical year? Hey, if it's gonna be any year, it'll be this one. But I'm sorry, I don't buy it. I DON'T BUY IT. I am not buying it. Still, though... THREAT LEVEL: HIGH

The following players are tied with Tiger at -2:

Rocco Mediate: I looked him up too. He's fucking 46. He has won 5 times on Tour, no majors. He's had two top tens in the U.S. Open since 2000, but missed the cut or didn't qualify for the other ones. This is a virtual impossibility. Then again, heck, maybe HE'S the one due for the magical week this time. Then he can join Trevor Goddamn Immelman and they can suck each others dicks for the next 20 years while Tiger wins all the other majors. THREAT LEVEL: MEDIUM

Robert Karlsson: HIS NAME IS ROBERT KARLSSON. HIS NAME IS ROBERT KARLSSON. I love that joke so much I'm just going to keep pounding away at it until he tanks, which he definitely will, because who the hell has ever heard of him? THREAT LEVEL: NONE

That's it. Those are the only three dickwads level with or ahead of Tiger.

But sure, let's assume Tiger stumbles a bit and a few more guys get back in the mix. Who do we have at -1 right now?

D.J. Trahan (-1): I still have never heard of him, and I've been staring at his name for two days now. THREAT LEVEL: NONE

Davis Love III (-1): He was elite for a few years. Those years appeared to be well in the past, but who knows, maybe he found the old magic. THREAT LEVEL: MEDIUM-HIGH

Lee Westwood (-1): Another asshole has-been who's taking this opportunity to pathetically try to remind people they once didn't used to suck so hard. THREAT LEVEL: MEDIUM

Miguel Angel Jiminez (-1): Shot -5 for the day, the round of the day. Fine golfer. Maybe the ugliest human being on the planet. I don't know whether that helps or hurts his chances. THREAT LEVEL: MEDIUM

And stepping back to EVEN PAR, we find these buttplugs!

Luke Donald (E): Hanging in there. There sure are a lot of guys up here that you think "maybe this is his week". So maybe this is his week. THREAT LEVEL: MEDIUM

Robert Allenby (E): See Luke Donald. Boy, good thing I still don't have any expectations of Tiger winning, otherwise all these not-complete-loser names up here might start getting me nervous! THREAT LEVEL: MEDIUM

Ernie Els (E): Yep, sure might be getting me nervous, if this wasn't the NO-STRESS U.S Open! THREAT LEVEL: HIGH

Geoff Ogilvy (E): Yep. THREAT LEVEL: MEDIUM

Carl Petersson (E): Ahh, finally, another name I can make fun of as being a) stupid, and b) one I've never heard of. THREAT LEVEL: NONE

But that's not all! If we take yet another step back into loserdom, we get to these fine losers:

John Rollins (+1): Good old John Rollins. Who can forget that one time he did anything anybody can remember, providing that they have any idea who he is, which absolutely nobody does? THREAT LEVEL: NONE

Oliver Wilson (+1): Dear friend of John Rollins, I'm assuming. THREAT LEVEL: MINUS A BILLION

Dare we go even further back into the pack of septic sludge?

Robert Dinwiddie (+2): I was so hoping he would do well today, so I could come on here and say: ROBERT DINWIDDIE! HAHAHHAHAHhahahahhah. THREAT LEVEL: ROFL

Scott Verplank (+2): Not good enough to be threatening from this far back. THREAT LEVEL: LOW

Camilo Villegas (+2): See Scott Verplank. THREAT LEVEL: LOW

Woody Austin (+2): Lots of people like Woody for being a curmudgeony old fart who tells it like it is. I golf at public courses a lot, and we've got a lot of these guys out there. But because they're not famous, we don't call them lovable, curmudgeony old farts. We call them fucking assholes. Suck it, Woody, we HATE you. THREAT LEVEL: HATE

Rod Pampling (+2): I may have seen his name on an infomercial once? I dunno. THREAT LEVEL: NONE

Andres Romero (+2): Has appeared in more of these features than anyone else! I nominate him the official mascot of the Major Analysis Threads, even though I still wouldn't be able to pick him out of a lineup if it was just him, a Teletubby, and a sack of rotting kumquats. THREAT LEVEL: TELETUBBY

Even at +3, you've got a lot of scary names like Retief Goosen, Padraig Harrington, Stewart Cink, but Jesus Christ, isn't this analysis long enough already, and can anyone five back of Tiger overtake him, even with a bum knee? I say, heck no! I also say, since this is NO STRESS week, who cares?

Now, before I bring this to a close, let's take a look even further down the leaderboard, to see what other interesting stories we can find:

Kevin Streelman (+3): Did you enjoy leading the U.S. Open for that one day, Kevin Streelman?! I hope so, because it'll never happen again, KEVIN STREELMAN.

Rory Sabbatini (+3): I've got nothing to say here, just every time he's losing, I like to point it out. Let's all point at Rory and laugh.

Phil Mickelson (+4): FUCK YOU LEFTY

Justin Hicks (+6): HAHAHA! Nice 80 there, Justin! Want to know a fun golf fact? I SHOT 80 ONCE!! Kevin Streelman is LAUGHING HIS ASS OFF at you, LOSER! God DAMN do I love when professional golfers play badly.

Vijay Singh (+8): AAAAAAHAHHAHAH!!! Nice 78 there, Vijay! The only thing I love more than seeing professional golfers play badly is when giant arrogant Fijian professional golfers play badly! FUCK YOU VIJAY!

Alright, that's it! Major (ha!) thanks to Savvyraven, my sweetie, for helping me do this analysis by giving me play-by-play of Tiger's round after about the 12th hole, through Gmail chat. So far this is the only way I've been able to actually experience this tournament other than by hitting refresh on Yahoo Sports, which is a great way to keep up with a tournament, providing that you don't mind that they update scores so slowly that they're still getting caught up on the tournament two weeks ago.

See you tomorrow for NO-STRESS ROUND THREE, which will feature NO STRESS, since it doesn't matter one way or the fucking other whether Tiger completes the greatest thing ever to be accomplished by any organism in the entire universe!!!!!!

NO FUCKING STRESS!!!!

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:10 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
I still can't get over the fact that his main competition is Applebee's and a guy named "Rocco." It's like he's fighting the city of Buffalo for this championship.

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:15 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
I'd also like to say that there is a man named Carl Peterson (one "s") who has been running the Kansas City Chiefs since 1989. You may not be aware of the number of championships won by the Kansas City Chiefs since 1989, so if I tell you that it is zero, you will agree.

He is just "there" in two sports, but I guess with golf you get to linger on his name a little more.

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:55 pm
by pinback
I am somewhat disappointed to report, after reviewing the Masters Thread, that in fact ROBERT KARLSSON, not "Andres Romero", is the obscure name with the most appearances in these threads, having now appeared in 100% (4 out of 4) of the long-winded Analysis posts I've done for majors this year.

Hats off to you, Robert Karlsson! Who I still have no idea who you are, two majors and two and a half months into this pointless exercise!!

HIS NAME IS ROBERT KARLSSON! HIS NAME IS ROBERT KARLSSON!

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:48 pm
by pinback
U.S. Open Round Three Analysis


Analysis Summary

No-Stress week has been cancelled. This is because Tiger started with an even worse start than his previous two starts, dropping 3 shots in the first four holes, starting with his third double-bogey of the week on #1, leaving us with no hope whatsoever. He then held on and kicked it around through the rest of the front nine while some of his competitors dropped by the wayside.

And then he had what will, if he wins, go down as the most bizarre, miraculous back nine of the most bizarre, miraculous win of his (and thus, anyone's) career.

Here is how bizarre and amazing and miraculous it was:

I didn't see hardly any of it. All I saw was the 17th hole, in a bar, out with friends and family. On this hole, he sprayed his drive way to the right, slashed at it from way off the course into the rough next to the green, then got amazingly lucky as his wild chip hit the pin and dropped in for the unlikeliest of birdies. The place (and mainly me) went nuts. This is miraculous enough, until you realize that once I got home, I found out that this was the THIRD most bizarre, amazing thing that happened on the back nine. There was the 30-foot curling putt for eagle at the last to put him into sole possession of the lead, and then there was the 70 foot impossibility of a putt on 13 to undo some of the damage that he was doing on holes that he wasn't performing miracles on.

Basically, each hole was either a disaster or a performance that any other golfer would hope for one such occurrence in his entire career.

And he did this while the pain in his knee has been getting worse and worse, once nearly collapsing from the agony, and having to be helped out of rough and sand traps by his caddie, while using his own clubs as canes to steady himself.

I've been reporting on Tiger for years now, and if he can pull this off, it will be the most amazing thing he has ever done, by a long shot. This will go down in history as the gutsiest performance by an athlete that the world of sports has ever seen. This will make Kirk Gibson look like a piker.

They will talk about this for the next generation. Seriously. If you care about sports at all, you should be interested in this. It will be a movie one day.

If he wins.

Which is still not quite assured, because in between miracles, he has been playing just a bit like crap. And there is still a very real possibility that his knee will just give out entirely and he'll just drop right there on the course and have to be carted away.

And of course, there are still some competitors.

Let's take a look at them now, at least those with even a slight chance at overtaking the Man and ruining both history and my weekend.

Tiger is currently alone in first place at -3. Chasing him are:

Lee Westwood (-2): Has picked this week to be steady as a rock. Truthfully, if anyone has a legitimate chance here, it's him. THREAT LEVEL: HIGH

Rocco Mediate (-1): Was totally in charge of this until he crumbled toward the end of the day. I didn't think he had a chance when he was ahead, so I surely don't think he has a chance two back. However, he is having the tournament of his life, so who knows? THREAT LEVEL: LOW

Geoff Ogilvy (+1): If any guy here has the game to come back from four down to overtake a busted-up Tiger, it's him. And it turns out, now that I look at the ratings, that he is actually the #5 ranked player in the world. Who the hell knew? THREAT LEVEL: MEDIUM

D.J. Trahan (+1): Still don't know who he is. I am officially calling it: Nobody I've never heard of is going to win this tournament. THREAT LEVEL: NONE

Hunter Mahan (+2): I'll expand that last one to say that nobody whose name ends in "ahan" is going to win this tournament. THREAT LEVEL: NONE

Camilo Villegas (+2): Today he was wearing a white shirt and pink pants. That's it, nobody I've never heard of, or whose name ends in "ahan", or who wears pink pants is going to win this tournament. THREAT LEVEL: LOW

Robert Allenby (+2): A nice steady tournament for Mr. Allenby. He will be quite happy to get a top-10. THREAT LEVEL: LOW

Miguel Angel Jimenez (+2): Still grotesquely ugly, but still right there. THREAT LEVEL: MEDIUM

Robert Karlsson (+2): HIS NAME IS ROBERT KARLSSON! HIS NAME IS ROBERT KARLSSON! I am going to miss this man. THREAT LEVEL: NONE

There is a group at +3 which includes some extremely scary names, like former major winners Mike Weir, Ernie Els, and all around dickwad but excellent golfer Sergio Garcia. But you know what? Too late, buttwipes. Six back is too far. Maybe next year (but probably not.)

So that's it. No Stress Week is now officially EXTREMELY HIGH STRESS WEEK, because this is right on the precipice of being the sports story of the year, maybe the decade, MAYBE OF YOUR ENTIRE LIFE.

LET THE STRESS BEGIN!!!!

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:24 pm
by pinback
2008 U.S. Open Fourth Round Analysis


Analysis Summary

There just are no more words.

After a grueling round, starting with yet another opening double-bogey, his third such opening hole of the tournament, and following with yet another bogey, and sprinkling alternately workmanlike and ghastly shots through the rest of the round, somehow Tiger made it to the 18th green with a tricky 12-foot downhill right-to-left curling putt to make it into a playoff.

This man had been limping and grimacing in pain right off the first tee, and never stopped until the round was over. The commentators stopped trying to gauge how good a shot was from Tiger's reaction simply because every reaction one was of searing, shooting agony.

In a round with very little of the third round's magic and drama, here was one last opportunity to top even everything that had come before.

Friends, even I had given up.

So when that tricky downhill left-to-righter just spun in, took a trip halfway around the hole and then dropped for a miracle birdie, three things happened:

1. I yelled so loud that I lost my voice for the next two hours.

2. Tiger had a triumphant reaction more orgasmic than anything we've ever seen in his long, storied career of orgasmic reactions. This was an otherworldly reaction from an otherworldly golfer. It was almost frightening.

3. I wrote my boss an email to say that I'd be in late tomorrow. See, most tournaments, if there's a tie at the end, they play a sudden-death playoff immediately afterward. The U.S. Open is the only tournament where they instead make the combatants come back the next day to play an entirely new full round of 18 holes.

Already dragging his left leg behind him for five hours, it's ironic that the last thing Tiger probably wanted was the one thing he so desperately needed from that final, twisty, no-way-he-does-this-again putt.

But there we are, and here we go. 18 holes, Monday morning, one-on-one, to finally, mercifully, complete what is already agreed by many to be the greatest U.S. Open in history, and what will be agreed, should Tiger win, to be the most astonishing display of fortitude and blind, raging will ever exhibited in the history of sports.

So I guess there were some more words, after all.

Anyhow. Let's take an in-depth analysis of Tiger's single remaining competitor!

Rocco Mediate (-1): It is true, this guy is impossible to not like. He grinned and joked and gabbed his way through what was a pretty damned remarkable round given the circumstances. One of those circumstances is that he hasn't won anywhere in 6 years, is ranked 158th in the world, and basically has no business being here. But here he is, taking on the greatest golfer of all time for the toughest trophy to win in all of golf. I haven't been giving him any credit in the previous analyses, but here he is. So, Rocco, just this one time, I'll give you this. THREAT LEVEL: VERY HIGH

You guys. I know my body and mind are ravaged with hyperbole cancer, but seriously, this is the most amazing golf tournament that has ever been played.

I advise you all to take off work as well.

Nay. I demand it.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:39 am
by Ice Cream Jonsey
I am casually into golf, meaning, I read Ben's posts and root for Tiger Woods because the fact that all these other doughy millionaires are scared to death of him amazes me. I don't like rooting for the 27 Yankees, but if all the other teams/players piss their pants and I am not that into the sport, well, gimme excellence. I'm pretty sure that:

1) The 27 Blue Jays would have won the 27 World Series, HAD THEY EXISTED
2) Robo Golfbot would have won the Open this year, HAD HE EXISTED

But failing both, go Tiger. How are the scoreboards?!?

ESPN: Um - and I am using "um" because it really brings home how fucking retarded this is - has "N/A" under "Through" for the scoreboard. Most playoffs are sudden death. So there would not be a "Through" listing (although it would be nice to know what hole they are playing, but whatever). The fact that the Open has them play 18 holes blew their fucking scoreboard out of the water.

Yahoo: Hooray, they have the holes listed! But they list what people are shooting "Today." And list the guys who played yesterday under "Today." Dumb shits. The best part is that John Merrick is even for today. The Elephant Man is right between Tiger and Rocco.

I get that nobody else cares, but Christ, it's not that difficult to account for the uniqueness of the Open.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:02 pm
by gsdgsd
pinback wrote:I advise you all to take off work as well.

Nay. I demand it.
I thought about taking off work today, but my purpose was going to be "watch Euro 2008" rather than "watch golf."

I didn't, in any case, but judging by the occasional squeals from my golf-watching co-workers, something interesting is happening! Good show!

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:48 pm
by pinback
2008 U.S. Open Playoff Analysis


Analysis Summary

There you have it. The most incredible sporting event in history.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:04 pm
by pinback
It should be said that there is a very real, if highly unlikely, chance that this will be Tiger's last tournament.

The knee is not good, and when asked about it, he has been giving some very cryptic, almost ominous responses.

He'll probably stay off it for another month or so and come back for the British open in July, and roll on for another ten years toward a legacy nobody will ever touch.

But mark my words, if he comes out in a week and says, "that's it, I'm done," do not come to me and say "Ha, you had absolutely no idea that that was going to happen!"

Do not come to me and say that.

If he does go out right now, four short of Jack's major record, there should still be zero doubt that he is the best golfer of all time.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:22 pm
by Finsternis
Tiger Woods seems like a nice guy and I wish him the best. But I think saying someone is the best of all time at smacking a little ball with a club is not saying much. I have more respect for the accomplishments of someone who actually did something useful.

And I definitely think there is a much better way to settle the tie than sudden death. That's like playing ten games of basketball, tying at 5-5, then saying "let's flip a coin and whoever wins is the better player." Or it's like the superbowl being only one game. One one anything is not enough to prove who is better. In fact the fact that they were tied for so long shows that they are very, very close in skill, which is all the less reason to end it on something so random.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:30 pm
by pinback
Finsternis wrote:Tiger Woods seems like a nice guy and I wish him the best. But I think saying someone is the best of all time at smacking a little ball with a club is not saying much. I have more respect for the accomplishments of someone who actually did something useful.
IMing me this wasn't enough, eh? You just had to cut-and-paste this little nugget of wisdom into this thread so everyone else can see what an asshole you are.

This is a THREAD about GOLF in a SPORTS BASE. If you don't care about sports, and don't have respect for people that play them, then that is totally fine. STAY OUT OF A SPORTS CONVERSATION if you don't like it! But I know that's impossible for you, because your fragile little ego is so fucking desperate to find ANY target to belittle, ANYTHING to prop up your pitiful need for a sense of superiority. It is the saddest fucking thing I have ever seen in my life.
And I definitely think there is a much better way to settle the tie than sudden death. That's like playing ten games of basketball, tying at 5-5, then saying "let's flip a coin and whoever wins is the better player." Or it's like the superbowl being only one game. One one anything is not enough to prove who is better. In fact the fact that they were tied for so long shows that they are very, very close in skill, which is all the less reason to end it on something so random.
I tried, too, to explain this to you over IM, but you do not understand golf, you don't understand the scoring, and even though I explained it several times, you failed to understand that they played NINETEEN GODDAMN PLAYOFF HOLES to determine a winner today. Does that sound like sudden death to you? Perhaps it does, since you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, and started asking me "don't they determine the winner by who won the most games?" like in between each hole they play a round of Tiddly Winks or something.

That was, genuinely, your worst post in the history of your life.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:13 pm
by Finsternis
pinback wrote:IMing me this wasn't enough, eh? You just had to cut-and-paste this little nugget of wisdom into this thread
You're the one who suggested I post here. You're just mad because I posted the part you didn't agree with along with the other part.
pinback wrote:This is a THREAD about GOLF in a SPORTS BASE. If you don't care about sports, and don't have respect for people that play them, then that is totally fine. STAY OUT OF A SPORTS CONVERSATION
I'll post in whatever threads I feel like. If you don't like it, I suggest a simple solution: don't read my posts in this thread. Easy-peasy. Everyone's happy.
pinback wrote:your fragile little ego is so fucking desperate to find ANY target to belittle, ANYTHING to prop up your pitiful need for a sense of superiority.
Not true. There are also things I like a lot and praise greatly. Athletes just don't happen to be one of them.
pinback wrote:It is the saddest fucking thing I have ever seen in my life.
Then you must have a very happy life!
pinback wrote:I tried, too, to explain this to you over IM, but you do not understand golf, you don't understand the scoring, and even though I explained it several times, you failed to understand that they played NINETEEN GODDAMN PLAYOFF HOLES to determine a winner today.
I understand that they played 19 holes. and I understand the scoring now that you explained it. But that has nothing to do with the fact that it was a crappy way to decide things.
pinback wrote:Does that sound like sudden death to you? Perhaps it does
Indeed it does. They played one last hole. Whoever got less strokes on that one hole won the tournament. Up until that point they were exactly tied in score. Are any of those facts incorrect? If not, in what way is that NOT sudden death?
pinback wrote:That was, genuinely, your worst post in the history of your life.
You can please some of the people some of the time...

Shrug. I write what I want. I don't write to please you. Some of my posts please you, some of them do not. Deal.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:20 pm
by pinback
Finsternis wrote:Up until that point they were exactly tied in score. Are any of those facts incorrect?
YES, you fucking bag of shit, they were NOT exactly tied in score, it was a fucking legendary up and down, see-saw battle of wills. God, ONE time in your stupid fucking life it would be nice if you asked a fucking question or tried to learn one fucking thing about what you're talking about before you explode the gasbag in your stomach and it comes farting out your mouth.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:29 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
My first job was as a clerk at a driving range. You did a little of everything, cashier, dude-who-runs-the-tractor-that-picks-up-the-balls, BALL WASHER LOL, etc. So as a result I hate golfers.

Oh no, don't get me wrong, they're fine people, good Americans. Nothing they like better than to kick back and watch a little Mork n' Mindy on channel seven with a cool, cold, Coors 16 ouncer. They're fine people, but they don't know that I wish them all dead.

Kidding! Not kidding. There were a handful of good guys (who, since it's been over 15 years, have probably died off in great numbers, now that I think about it). But the majority were pricks. The average golfer can not hit a tractor moving at 2 MPH, by the way, though if you ask them, they are all crack shots.

So for that reason I never got into watching or playing golf. All I can say, after experiencing the playoff today in the limited way I experienced it (getting updates from Ben) is that it really was the finest sporting event of the year, so far, which is a huge compliment considering how the Super Bowl ended.

It's also likely to be one of the most amazing perfomances of golf of all-time. Wow. WOW.

I had one of my knees reconstructed and I still feel the surgery once, ehhh, say once a week. Just a little, "hi!" to remind you that you had surgery. I can't remember if Tiger got his meniscus cleaned up, or replaced or what, but JESUS CHRIST, people should not be doing what he did mere weeks after knee surgery. They just shouldn't. Christ, almost all can't, so it's moot! But Christ, Christ, Christ.

And you have to give it up for Rocco Mediate. 45 years old and finally -- I assume? -- peaking as a golfer. It gives hope to us all, frankly. He went 18 holes with Tiger Woods, the Most Dominant Athlete of Our Lives Except For Wayne Gretzky, and came out even. Even!!! Another frigging trip through every hole wasn't enough.

You can't even say "he played his ass off" - he did, of course, but he did something far greater. So few of us will ever get a chance to go up against someone who is the best in the world at something. So few of us are qualified, so few of us have the skill ourselves, so few of us internalize the things we are good at into non-competitive talents, like being a good father, or a good worker down at the dock, or good at figuring out the plot twists of CSI:NY.

But Rocco Mediate got to go up against the best in the world and I'll guarantee you he learned more about himself in six hours today than his previous 45 years. Here's the scorecard. The most important part of the match was when he birdied three straight holes to end the 15th. He put the pressure on Tiger Woods. Tiger had to birdie the goddamn 18th hole to simply survive. He did it, of course,, because Tiger Woods is the man you cannot compute, control, or comprehend. He's a robot of golf, out there doing shit nobody thought possible. But Rocco Mediate, with 9 professional wins to his name, went up against Golfing Killbot 9000 and forced him to birdie the last hole. Amazing.

You can't have those two guys out there forever, so sudden death ensued, on a hole that Tiger had birdied earlier that day (and Rocco not), so really Tiger's "win" was kind of cheap when you think about it. No, no, just kidding. I pretend to dismiss golf because so many golfers shrink like little babies when Tiger's a-coming, but what happened today was incredible and exactly the opposite.

Tiger's opponent, Rocco Mediate, did not shrink away. He did not back down. He did not give up. He did not get caught up in the aura or anything like that. He went down like a man and gave the Legend a fight. Rocco just ran out of holes.

It was amazing. I wish I had taken off work to see it, instead of just catching it over the Internet. Good on ya, golf. Good on ya.