Jolt Country

Yankees: suck me.

Bruce

Yankees: Yank this.

bruce wrote:Yankees: suck me.

That's the team, right, and not people who are deemed to BE Yankees in general?

Exactly. Geographical Yankees, on the other hand, need not suck or yank anything, owing to their overwhelming superiority in every way imaginable over their little southern brothers.

Hey, but someone's gotta grow the tobacco! Glad to have you aboard!

(Let me know if you need any of the above spelled phonetically.)

Well, I am not from the South, I am a Damn Yankee, but thanks. I grew up with Vitriola in upstate New York. In a hellhole.

itgirl wrote:I grew up with Vitriola in upstate New York. In a hellhole.

That's how I pretty much describe the whole state. Yup.

Updtate New York was lush, pleasant and fulfilling in my time there, and it made me the centered, well-versed and engaging individual I am today.

Vitriola wrote:That's how I pretty much describe the whole state. Yup.

I don't recall what part of NY you grew up in (Jamestown maybe?), but I certainly wouldn't call the entire state a hellhole. Rochester has it's issues, but it's certainly not a hellhole (at least the part I live in). Other parts of the state are also pretty damn nice (almost moved to Ithaca....great town).

Rochester has it's issues, but it's certainly not a hellhole (at least the part I live in).

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Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:Updtate New York was lush, pleasant and fulfilling in my time there, and it made me the centered, well-versed and engaging individual I am today.

By the way, I'd like the organized execution of all minorities as soon as possible.

I (heart) NY.

chris wrote:I don't recall what part of NY you grew up in (Jamestown maybe?), but I certainly wouldn't call the entire state a hellhole.

Well, I'd certainly call Jamestown a hellhole, although it's not where V and I grew up, and certainly not "upstate," being that it's on Route 17 on the PA border. I consider that Southern Tier. That's only "upstate" if you're from The City.

I did have a relationship in Cleveland with a guy from Jamestown, if you can call meting the same guy in a bar and sucking him off in the men's room every Friday night a "relationship."

By the way, V, I was stuck on your birthday around the corner from your father, aka Ed Dague's house at the Albany Airport because Hurricane Ivan wouldn't let me fly back to Atlanta, and my mother had taken off to Sturbridge - how weird is it to stay in a hotel in Albany and have to hear about tourism and the great things to do there? - and I met this guy from the Hamlet of Indian Lake. I asked him if he hung out often at "that one bar." I asked him just that way. He said yes. He knew exactly which bar I was talking about, I guess because it's the only one to hang out in.

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:By the way, I'd like the organized execution of all minorities as soon as possible.

Sure thing <strike>Nessman</strike> <strike>mein Fuehrer</strike> RobB.

I grew up in Saratoga, and Ithaca is also quite pleasant, but the rest of the state is a depressing, falling-down post-industrial graveyard of blue-collar despair and diseased trees.

Really have to see the Finger Lakes in summer, though. Beautiful.

Vitriola wrote:I grew up in Saratoga, and Ithaca is also quite pleasant, but the rest of the state is a depressing, falling-down post-industrial graveyard of blue-collar despair and diseased trees.

Now that's not fair. Buffalo and Syracuse have always been blue-collar towns (and have been suffering for the last 20 years since all of the jobs went to China), but Rochester has traditionally been a white-collar town. Like I said, we have our problems, but we're nowhere near as broken down as Buffalo or Syracuse.

chris wrote:Now that's not fair. Buffalo and Syracuse have always been blue-collar towns (and have been suffering for the last 20 years since all of the jobs went to China), but Rochester has traditionally been a white-collar town. Like I said, we have our problems, but we're nowhere near as broken down as Buffalo or Syracuse.

Albany - Ugly and depressing.

Syracuse - Ugly and depressing.

Buffalo - Ugly and depressing.

Rochester - Ugly and depressing. White collar? Kodak being like one of the only employers, and most of the jobs are labor intensive chemical shuffling opportunities? Sure, most of your friends may have computer jobs, but most inhabitants don't.

Binghamton - Ugly and depressing and scary.

Utica - Ugly and depressing and twice while driving through someone tried to kill me. I am not making this up.

NYC area - Ugly and depressing and crowded and expensive and way too urban sophisticated.

Adirondacks - Gorgeous and economically pisspoor and full of white trash and you can't get any good Thai food anywhere.

The only good part besides Saratoga and Ithaca about New York is Canada.

Vitriola wrote:The only good part besides Saratoga and Ithaca about New York is Canada.

I have always found it hilarious that your hatred for New York -- the State! -- is severe and uncompromising... except for the city you grew up in!!! Saratoga: a jewel in a toilet in a sulfur mine in a biohazard zone IN YOUR MIND.

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:I have always found it hilarious that your hatred for New York -- the State! -- is severe and uncompromising... except for the city you grew up in!!! Saratoga: a jewel in a toilet in a sulfur mine in a biohazard zone IN YOUR MIND.

I like Saratoga for the same reason I like Ithaca - It's expensive enough to live there that the undesirable element finds it cost prohibitive to stay. Therefore, the people there have actual taste in archetecture, taste in cuisine, i.e. they don't eat pizza every goddamn day and wings when they don't, the education system there is good enough that most people actually tend to leave it every generation or so, instead of just getting married when they're 20, having 5 children and screaming at each other until they die, the people that move there are travelled and learned, it's nicely landscaped instead of just paved and covered with run-down buildings, they keep the chain megastores on the outskirts of town where you don't have to look at them everytime you go somewhere, tourism plays a part in the city's budget, so they keep themselves presentable and safe in order to get this revenue. They are also home to Universities of repute, which also makes a difference, especially since these are both rather smallish cities. Everywhere else is a cesspool.

Vitriola wrote:I like Saratoga for the same reason I like Ithaca - It's expensive enough to live there that the undesirable element finds it cost prohibitive to stay.

Oh -- oHH!! I see what you did there.

Therefore, the people there have actual taste in archetecture, taste in cuisine, i.e. they don't eat pizza every goddamn day and wings when they don't

Ah-ha-ha!!

Don't let my brother and I miscolor your impressions of what goes on in western New York. We talk about the kind of foods that we absolutely and positively can not get out here. (Though now that we go to Boulder more often I want to try the pizza place Greg mentioned in that one thread a while back.) It's no different than if my brother and I moved into an area of the country where you had to be armless in order to live there. We'd be all, "Boy, those were some days, back when we could use our arms. High fives... driving... being able to do more with a football than just kick field goals." That's why the two of us only talk about pizza and wings when it comes to food. You can't get them out here. I don't mean for us to misrepresent what went on there.

the education system there is good enough that most people actually tend to leave it every generation or so

Come on now -- Syracuse University, the Rochester Institute of Technology and Buffalo State are good schools. (Well, one of the Buffalo ones is a good school -- either Buff State or UoB. I can't remember which.)

RIT is one of the best schools in the country. Granted, the only women you ever see there are the ones sketched in your Physics IV texts, but still.

Instead of just getting married when they're 20, having 5 children and screaming at each other until they die

There's an entire region of America that got labelled with that, er, label. "The South." You can't just arbitrarily give it to New York State.

It's nicely landscaped instead of just paved and covered with run-down buildings, they keep the chain megastores on the outskirts of town where you don't have to look at them everytime you go somewhere, tourism plays a part in the city's budget, so they keep themselves presentable and safe in order to get this revenue. They are also home to Universities of repute, which also makes a difference, especially since these are both rather smallish cities. Everywhere else is a cesspool.

It's really not. Believe me, I don't care if you hate New York State, love New York State or have feelings somewhere in between but do not pretend it's different in the one area you just happened to grow up in and that the alarming generalities apply everywhere but in the 50 square miles you were raised in; that's just silly.

I think the obscene tax rate is the most awful thing about the state, FWIW.

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:That's why the two of us only talk about pizza and wings when it comes to food. You can't get them out here.

You can't get wings here? I can't remember where I got them most frequently when I lived here, and granted most of my favorite places have closed down since my exodus, but there were good wings to be had. Just not at Old Chicago.

I think the Sink, up On the Hill in Boulder, has pretty great wings. Though granted, again, it's been more than 5-6 years since I've had 'em.

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:[It's really not. Believe me, I don't care if you hate New York State, love New York State or have feelings somewhere in between but do not pretend it's different in the one area you just happened to grow up in and that the alarming generalities apply everywhere but in the 50 square miles you were raised in; that's just silly.

I don't pretend. The city I grew up in was small, cosy, safe, with alot of big-city culture while still being inexpensive and pretty. It's one of the largest tourist destinations in the country and they put so much of that money right back into the town that it's incredibly well kept up, the schools are excellent, and they keep the downtown small and safe yet busy and lively. It's also surrounded by horse country and the mountains to the north, so the countryside is worthwhile, too. It really is different because of the tourists than alot of other, less refined places in NY where some people on this board grew up.