Yeah, actually you do. If a problem is insurers not paying for previous conditions then forcing them to stop that requires more people in the insurance system or else it'll go bankrupt. If a problem is insurers charge three times as much for an individual plan than for a group plan then a regulated exchange is a solution. Tough shit if people don't think they need to pay for health insurance - everybody gets sick or hurt sometime and if you can't afford it then society ends up paying. Requiring people to take a minimum level of personal responsibility for their future health care needs is just as proper as government requiring jonsey to wear a helmet on his bike or requiring Jack in the box employees to wash their hands before serving shitty food.letharagic wrote:So because the health system is fucked up we should fuck it up more and have EVERYBODY in the country get fucked in the process?
Come on, "rates tripled"? I'll call bullshit on that unless you can back it up with some data (what insurance companies, monthly cost went from what to what in what timeframe). I know that my insurance rates have been going up every year i've been working since 1996, sometimes 20 - 30% per year and that rate has even slightly slowed down in the last couple of years for me. Far from losing my cherished health plan, i will soon be choosing to switch to an exchage based plan because it's better for less money. If some premiums are going up or new features have to be added then how is that worse than before?lethargic wrote:Literally EVERY SINGLE PERSON in my family and in my immediate circle has either been fired, cut to part time, lost their health care plan because it doesn't met the guidelines, or had their insurance rates TRIPLE all as a direct result of Obamacare.
Sure, companies can reduce their employees hours to get under some requirements but what's new about low income or entry level people having to work more than one job (i've worked two jobs for most of the last 17 years). Newsflash: companies still need to hire people to do jobs which need to be done, at least now they're all on a level playing field:
Hiring more part time workers costs more in training and admin costs. Cutting total hours worked risks competitors doing better at serving your market. Having sick people working who can't get insurance hurts productivity.spock wrote:"sauce for the goose, mr savik, the odds will be even"
The US is literally the last modern first world nation to make sure that all of its citizens have access to a minimum level of health care security. I imagine that in the past people like you would have been crowing about the fact that these new fangled overtime laws are keeping everyone you know from working more than 39 1/2 hours a week and so the law must go.
no, you're probably just a closeted libertarian. They're the best at having self serving ideas about all the things that government shouldn't be doing.OMG. Yes. Me calling Republican morons for 3 posts. I'm obviously a Republican. My party is the Every Politician Should Be Dragged into the Street and Beat to Death Party. Or EPSBDITSABTD for short.
wowee, you're pretty smart if this is your best explanation of what exactly should be negotiated about the health law. Again how should the "black people oppressor in chief" negotiate when he started out to the right of his opponent's previous position? It's no secret that the democrats have been fighting for universal health care coverage for over half a century, its just too bad they had to use their opponents ideas to get it done.OMG. You are the dumbest person alive.
ok, back up your contention. What has Obama done to hurt these black people you care so much about?Here we go. Exactly. There it is. This dumbass actually said it! HAHAHAHA! You can't criticize Obama without some idiot calling you a racist. Ding. Ding. Thank you for proving my point. It was perfectly acceptable for me to call George Bush an idiot for 8 years but as soon as the skin color changed OMG RACIST!!! LOL Incredible.
Oh fuck you and your stupid word games. I mean in this current world of the United States we live in where everybody is labeled a racist every 5 minutes, Obama is absolutely the worst. Yes, believe it or not, Obama has done more to hurt black people than Paula Deen.