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Election 2004

Post by Knuckles the CLown » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:53 pm

Not that any of you stuffed crust wastoids will be leaving your computers long enough to hit the voting booth, "I SHOULD BE ABLE TO VOTE THROUGH THE INTERNET" you cry. Yeah if there was internet voting back in 1969 your precious Star Trek would still be on the air and I'm guessing Scott Bakula would still have a prominent role.

Anyhow after reading through your posts the last year I've come to the realization that the majority of you want a candidate that makes you feel like your still in the confines of mommies womb. You don't want anyone rocking the boat, everything to cost nothing and for the oppressed people of the world to keep on living in filth while their evil governments make important decisions- like circumcising female babies, testing chemical weapons on dogs and blowing up Jews.

Therefore I'm going to play a guessing game about those who I slightly know and predict who they are going to vote for.

ICJ- Is a known Lieberman hater yet loves Israel. So the Jew factor cancels out. I know Lieberman isn't running but all of his democrat cronies are the most pathetic saps of second hand guessing and double talking shit-fucks I've ever seen. Robb hates Bush cause he's represents one of the "cool" people that left Robb out of the cold in Junior High. My prediction? He throws his vote down the toilet and vote for Nader, which is a vote for Bush! EVERYONE WINS!

Pinback- Here's another guy who can't vote for Bush because Bush is too much IN YOUR FACE PINBACK! He needs a subtle, caring candidate that makes him feel good about himself and that things are gonna be all right. My prediction
Earl F. Dodge of the Prohibition Party.

Vitriola- This crazy woman is all over the place. She wants to rock to Icelandic Goat Sacrificing Rock while being wooed by fine wine and simple pleasures. So who the fuck knows? My guess

Michael Bay of the "National Barking Spider Resurgence" Party. I'm not fucking kidding; this weirdo is actually running for President. Don't believe me- http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=MZZ22546

Chris- This tool box will bore you to death with tales of anti-siding, really good cheeseburgers, woodworking and the City of Rochester New York which he has never set foot out of. I'm guessing anti any type of war or anything that mildly causes the slightest bit of inconvenience in his life. Anti Bush and salivating at the prospect of having that maggot Kerry in office. Prediction: John Kerry, but will tell everyone he voted for Nader to sound intelligent.


Lysander- HAHAHA He lives in Alaska. Do they even have the right to vote there? Has any candidate ever visited the state? Does current President Bush even know there is a state called Alaska? My guess is after Bush gets re-elected he will pull all the oil out of that freezer box and tell the Russians "Here you go, have it back, good fucking riddance" Other than when the Russians repeal the Caribou protection act, nobody will notice. BTW, I am so sorry you have to actually listen to this shit. That's as close to remorse and an apology you'll ever get out of me. Get Bent.

Danzaland- I know he hates everything and has morphed in to some type of conspiracy theory brainwashing thingy. Bush is the perfect president for these guys but the fact Bush doesn’t openly bash gays, blacks and Jews makes THESE guys think he is a bleeding heart. At heart, Danza is a constitutionalist and will vote for whatever white trash degenerate foolishly accepts their nomination, thus ending the candidate’s career in any job field that doesn’t require wearing a paper hat or cleaning up dog feces.

Jethro Q. Walrusitty- Due to the name reference he will be voting for whatever candidate favors Congress in Powdered wigs. Since I don’t know him well, I assume he’ll vote for Kerry and instantly hate him when takes oath.

Knuckles the Clown- I will be voting for George Bush. I don’t care if he lied about reasons for going to War, I didn’t need any reasons. I will never have any money so it makes me happy when the economy sucks, less people look down on me when they are out of work.

If I’ve left anyone out it’s because I don’t know you or more likely I couldn’t give two shits and you don’t matter to me. However, I am more than happy to tell everyone who you will be voting for if you like!
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Post by danzaland » Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:33 am

I definitly will be going 3rd party. I am hoping that the Libertarians are on the Ballot in NYS, (another area I could help out in, see Animal post).
They are in favor of abiding by the Constitution in evry matter.
I cannot justify voting for either Kerry or Bush. The whole left-right paradigm has been corrupted at the national level, so we get to choose from 2 Skull and Bones members who are distant cousins. When the hell did this become a monarchy?

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Post by pinback » Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:44 am

Voting is an utterly useless waste of time, that's why I'm not going to do it, and why I never have.

If you need it explained to you why it's useless, I can do that, but you're all fairly intelligent people, so I'm hoping you already understand this as plainly obvious.

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Re: Election 2004

Post by chris » Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:03 am

Knuckles the CLown wrote:Chris- This tool box will bore you to death with tales of anti-siding, really good cheeseburgers, woodworking and the City of Rochester New York which he has never set foot out of. I'm guessing anti any type of war or anything that mildly causes the slightest bit of inconvenience in his life. Anti Bush and salivating at the prospect of having that maggot Kerry in office. Prediction: John Kerry, but will tell everyone he voted for Nader to sound intelligent.
So let me guess: you used your incredible deductive power to figure out that I'm voting for Kerry, and not the "Kerry for President" banner on my homepage, right? :smile:

In any case, you're fairly off the mark. I'm not anti-war (just anti POINTLESS war), and I'll definitely be voting for Kerry because Bush sucks so bad....worst president in the last 100 years. Oh, and I've been out of Rochester quite a few times, thank you.

I would not have a problem voting for a VIABLE 3rd party candidate, which Nader is NOT. I think this time around that it's more important to get rid of Bush than it is to be idealistic and vote for Nader, and that means voting for Kerry. If in 2008, Kerry isn't doing the job and a viable 3rd party candidate comes along, I'd certainly vote for them. Back in '92, I was all ready to vote for Perot before he put his foot in his mouth (the guy was *20* points ahead of Clinton & Bush at one point).

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Post by Knuckles the CLown » Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:10 am

I agree voting is incredibly useless. If you ranked Bush and Kerry on their ability to run this country I would assume Bush falls about 3,245,635th and Kerry about 8,982,742nd out of 295 million people. But the fucked up way it is set up is that everyone votes for whatever homos lead those parties. If anyone inteligent or sane could ever step up they would win in a landslide. So far the most serious threats have been Perot who is insane and Nader who always looks like he has just spilled a bowl of soup on himself.

I will vote for Bush as a lesser evil. However I wouldn't dream of putting up a bumper sticker on my bicycle or being a champion to his cause. That would make me look like an idiiot.
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Post by pinback » Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:18 am

Bush is a lesser evil than what? Satan?

Nader

Post by Nader » Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:18 am

Knuckles the CLown wrote:Nader who always looks like he has just spilled a bowl of soup on himself.
Hey, I resemble that remark!
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Post by pinback » Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:19 am

And even if the two guys running were the TOP TWO MOST EFFECTIVE PEOPLE TO RUN THE COUNTRY, voting would be useless.

In fact, even if one candidate is THE BEST GUY IN HISTORY, and the other one is THE WORST GUY IN HISTORY, it's still useless to go to the voting booth.

Any way you cut it, y'all be wastin' your time.

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Post by Knuckles the CLown » Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:35 am

pinback wrote:And even if the two guys running were the TOP TWO MOST EFFECTIVE PEOPLE TO RUN THE COUNTRY, voting would be useless.

In fact, even if one candidate is THE BEST GUY IN HISTORY, and the other one is THE WORST GUY IN HISTORY, it's still useless to go to the voting booth.

Any way you cut it, y'all be wastin' your time.
Wasting your time from what, watching homo-erotic films like Chicago and posting a review of that Nancy boy nonsense?

IT'S ALL A WASTE OF TIME! Voting is and it isn't. At least 45% people have nobody to blame but themsleves when dickwad elected candidate ruins everything. Just having the option to vote prevents this from being the type of country that makes pathetic boy underwear snifers like yourself not have to get real jobs, or do anything remotley usefull like building a railroad.
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Post by pinback » Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:50 am

That is incorrect.

If the voting population of the US was 1,000, or even 10,000, then each vote would be statistically significant. With a voting population of 50,000,000 (and, since we still use an electoral college, let's bump it down to 1,000,000 per state), the significance of each vote vanishes.

To wit: Take one of your own votes or a vote of any of your friends and family and ancestors throughout the last hundred years of presidential elections (one vote per election), and you will see that none of the elections would have come out differently. No president in the last 100 years (or the next 1,000,000 years) who has ever been elected would have been not elected if he'd neglected to vote for himself. He could have even voted for the OTHER guy and still won.

It's an emotional issue, which tends to cloud people's intellect from the truth of the matter, which is: A single vote is meaningless.

And before you trot out that email spam about "THINK ONE VOTE IS MEANINGLESS?!?! READ THIS AND THEN PASS IT ON TO YOUR FRIENDS!!!", please read this webpage.

Note: Saying "one vote is meaningless" is not intended to convey the idea that each individual citizen is powerless to effect change upon his governance. That is certainly (and obviously) far from true. However, "rocking the vote" is an ineffective way of doing so.

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Post by Ice Cream Jonsey » Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:59 am

Bugs, you're sane. Who will you be voting for?
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Post by danzaland » Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:02 am

Voting is not useless. Yeah the top position we really have no effect upon, but at the local level is where it is at. This is what the Forefathers saw and told us to do. There was a time where the Federal Gov't answered to the State.

As far as the presidency is concerned BUSH AND KERRY ARE THE SAME THING. We will still have a draft next year, the patriot act will still exist. The steps we have been taking toward a Police State will not be changed.

For Christ sake we may not even make it to the election with out some sort of problem. I expect Bin Laden to be rolled out to make Bush look good. That is if the next article doesn't happen.....



From Prisonplanet.tv
Sorting out the Mixed Signals about Terror and the Election

Ben Aiken | July 22 2004

The coming months are the most dangerous and unpredictable time the country has faced since 9/11. During this brief window of time, the New World Order will make crucial decisions about how to proceed, and then carry out their plan. They have several options that are publicly in play, and likely a few that are not. Unfortunately, another terrorist attack, larger than 9/11, likely involving chemical or biological weapons or a “dirty bomb”, appears imminent. The wrinkle, though, is the Presidential Election on November 2nd.

A terrorist attack before the Election would be intended to keep Bush in office for another 4 years. The Bush staff has done focus groups that show the backlash seen in Spain would not happen here. They calculate that the sheep will once again rally to their commander-and-chief and question nothing just as they have before. It wasn’t much of a surprise when the White House told US News and World Report that their “working premise” was that there “will” be an attack before the election. That’s a nice working premise for a campaign staff: that the candidate will have a 90% approval rating heading into the final days.

So it was kind of odd when Tom Ridge held a press conference and announced that in addition to wanting to kill thousands of us, the terrorists also want to disrupt our democratic process. Why would the terrorists want to cancel the election if they were poised to win it? Not to mention that the “voting” will be done on Diebold touch-screen paperless voting machines that are designed for fraud. It’s curious that the Bush Syndicate would be nervous about such a rigged event, but it would seem from Ridge’s press conference that they are. Maybe it’s because the fix is in, but not for them.

Many in the media made the connection between the naming of John Edwards as Vice President and the Ridge announcement, seeing it as the Bush political team trying to clamp down on Kerry’s bump in the polls. The two do seem to be connected when you consider that Edwards was given the seal of approval from the Bilderberg Group shortly before his being picked, according to the New York Times. In addition to spending time vetting John Edwards and skewering Howard Dean in the media, the Bilderberg founders have pumped millions into Kerry’s campaign, much of it through George Soros, whose rumored connections to the House of Rothschild have shadowed his near psychic moves in the currency market. Kerry’s being a member of Skull and Bones and more closely related to European royalty than Bush make him a prime candidate to be anointed by the elite. He would be free of the baggage Bush has accrued by implementing so much of the agenda so fast. And a clean slate might be necessary to implement the next steps, like activating the military inside the country. Kerry might also have an easier time passing into law the remainder of the total control grid, which must be in place before the credit bubble bursts and the elite are forced to move forward with the implosion of the economy. In fact, one of Kerry’s main campaign platforms is the creation of a new domestic intelligence agency with mammoth funding and power.
If Kerry is chosen, then the terrorist attack will likely occur shortly into his presidency. If a foreign enemy is chosen, he could launch a new war. But the possibility shouldn’t be excluded that, like Clinton, he may choose a domestic enemy like the “anti-government”, the “far-right”, or maybe even the “conspiracy theorist”. Kerry has been groomed his entire life by the elite to possibly be President, and he is clearly ready to go along with whatever the plan may be.

The Bush Syndicate would like the attack to happen before the election, so they can stay in the White House a little while longer. But the Bilderberg group is above the Bushes and the Military-Industrial Complex in the power command structure which runs the world, and it appears they might have chosen Kerry. However, who controls the machinery of terrorism? Clearly, it is the Bushes and their sponsors in the Defense Industry and within the military and CIA. Would they stand down until after the election if the elite ordered them to? The Bushes have always been loyal servants of the New World Order going back decades, but would they stand by while they were discarded for the second time? It’s hard to imagine that they would go against the wishes of the Bilderberg group, and yet publicly now they are floating a trial balloon about canceling the election. Several news reports have claimed Bush is going nuts, throwing furniture, cursing people, and saying he is doing God’s will, all of which is certainly believable. It’s reminiscent of Nixon’s final months before he was forced to resign when he was binge drinking and threatening to nuke Congress. There is a possibility Bush has already been cut loose, and knows it. This would make the Bush Syndicate very dangerous and unpredictable. These guys don’t like to give up the big chair, and they aren’t very risk-averse. Could they make a bold move and force the elite’s hand? Only time will tell, but whatever these criminals end up doing, it won’t be good.

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Post by Bugs » Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:05 am

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:Bugs, you're sane. Who will you be voting for?
Fuck you, I'm staying out of this.

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Post by pinback » Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:27 am

danzaland wrote:Voting is not useless. Yeah the top position we really have no effect upon, but at the local level is where it is at. This is what the Forefathers saw and told us to do. There was a time where the Federal Gov't answered to the State.
Well, I was speaking only of the presidential election.

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Post by Knuckles the CLown » Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:27 am

danzaland wrote:The Bush Syndicate would like the attack to happen before the election, so they can stay in the White House a little while longer. But the Bilderberg group is above the Bushes and the Military-Industrial Complex in the power command structure which runs the world, and it appears they might have chosen Kerry. However, who controls the machinery of terrorism? Clearly, it is the Bushes and their sponsors in the Defense Industry and within the military and CIA.
Note to self, scrap all plans and begin to film porno entitled "The Bush Syndicate"

And Danza, the point to all of this conspiracy is to what? The New World Order wants to what? 6 greedy Jews want to enslave us all, is that the plan?
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Post by Steve Carlton » Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:29 am

Yes Knuckles that is the PLAN! DEATH TO ISRAEL!

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Post by Casual Observer » Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:36 am

Voting for president is mainly useless in any states except those few that haven't yet been rendered uncompetitive due to political jerrymandering (not red or blue in the map below). I don't intend to vote for president because there are lots and lots and lots of other people in New York that will vote democrat so i don't have to.

You could say that because Bush only won by 537 votes in Florida that their votes mattered - but that doesn't count the thousands of minority voters who were disenfranchised due to a misapplication of voting rules.

Congress is the same story: The majority of congressional districts have been shaped into odd shapes which serve to protect whichever politician is the incumbent. I think there are supposed to be only about 30 out of 535 races that are going to be even remotely competitive. It's about money so that each party doesn't have to spend on advertisements everywhere to influence the sheeple.


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Post by Knuckles the CLown » Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:12 pm

The purple states are the ones Bush plans on eliminating if re-elected. All citizens in said purple states will be under "test" martial law enabling the New World Order to test their ghastly plan.
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Post by chris » Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:47 pm

The problem as I see it is that people are too goddamn self-centered. "Oh wah wah wah, I'm only one guy, and my vote doesn't count". The problem is that nearly half of the country believes this, so something like 100 million votes do NOT get cast. A single vote may not make a difference, but 100 million sure as hell do. THINK ABOUT THE BIGGER PICTURE PEOPLE.

I'm sure there were far more than 600 people in Florida who would have voted for Gore had they gotten off their asses and actually done it. Had they not convinced themselves that "Gore will win anyway, so I don't need to vote", the country would be spiraling downhill like it is under Dubya's "leadership".

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Post by Bugs » Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:48 pm

How old is that map? Pennsylvania and Michigan are very much considered swing states.

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