Wonka-vision as an adult

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Re: Wonka-vision as an adult

by AArdvark » Thu Mar 24, 2022 4:46 pm

Ok, the little orange people weren't scabs. They weren't unionized and they didn't have a contract. The workplace wasn't safe for the workers and Wonka didn't get any tax breaks from the government.

No matter how much real-word spin you can inject into a fantasy movie Commander will have more (and back it up with internet links)
"Legal Eagle does a YouTube video on what laws were broken in the movie."
My interest in this does not go that far. This stopped being funny 8 seconds ago.


This reminds me of a single coil guitar pickup. Single coil pickups work fine but they have a background hum when turned on. I have heard that it's part of the charm of playing thru a single coil pickup. Commander's one-upmanship posts are fine but there's always a little annoying background hum. Maybe It's part of the charm when he posts here.

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Re: Wonka-vision as an adult

by Tdarcos » Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:44 am

AArdvark wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:45 pmWonka fired all his employees ... what kind of tax incentives did he lose from the local government, huh?
Zero. Tax incentives were an American invention, and hadn't been thought of in 1971.
AArdvark wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:45 pmAre the little orange people scabs?
"Scabs" implies the factory was unionized. Remember, the place was closed for years. This is long enough to terminate any union contract if there was one.

Legal Eagle does a YouTube video on what laws were broken in the movie.
  • First, unsafe working conditions like having visitors sucked into pipes. If an Oompa Loompa had slipped on the walkway and fell in, it would be one of them going up the pipe instead of Augustus Gloop. Those intake pipes were not protected by screens sins anyone working there could conceivably slip and fall in. And walkways were not properly protected from fall-ins by railings.
  • Second, illegal Immigration (did Wonka Have proper permits to import them Loompas into his country including work visas?)
  • Third, are the employees getting adequate time off, overtime pay, and paid holidays?
  • Fourth, are they paid in actual money as opposed to payment in cacao beans?
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AArdvark wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:45 pmVeruca Salt is a serious karen.
This movie had an example of a "Karen" before we even knew about them! Also, the word "veruca" means a wart on the bottom of one's foot; the book even lasmpshades this.
AArdvark wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:45 pmI don't know about Britian's NHS policy regarding elder abuse but there's a good case for it here.
Forget elder abuse. Britain's NHS is literally starving the elderly to death in order to save money. I am not kidding.

Re: Wonka-vision as an adult

by Flack » Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:12 pm

AArdvark wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:45 pm Funny, as an adult there are some basic questions about parts of the movie that took away the wonder and magic that I experienced when seeing this for the first time. For instance, Wonka fired all his employees after his competitors kept sending in spies as workers to steal his secret recipes. He locked the gates and nobody goes in or out. This was explained by a street sweeper as Charlie looked in through said locked gates at the chimney with the light-up WONKA letters. Well, if Wonka fired all the local employees, what kind of tax incentives did he lose from the local government, huh? Ask yourself that! I feel like I'm going all Commander here. (verb-nouns! HA!!) Are the little orange people scabs?

Veruca Salt is a serious karen. Violet would make a good YouTube influencer. Mike Teevee is the ultimate consumer, Disney should be proud of him. Charlie's four aunts and uncles (that never get out of bed) are an economic drain on the family, they don't even get Welfare! I don't know about Britian's NHS policy regarding elder abuse but there's a good case for it here.
I loved that movie as a kid, and yeah, as an adult it falls apart under even the lightest scrutiny. I remember someone saying that it's both convenient and a little troubling that the Oompa Loompas had songs ready for each child's demise... like, either they were super good at improv, or they knew when each kid was going to "die." Of course Wonka said they didn't die, but Wonka said a lot of shit that wasn't true. I used to think Wonka had built a machine that converted children into Oompa Loompas.

In a world where baseball bats come with warnings not to hit people with them, I wonder what the court trials after that movie ended would look like. Like, there wasn't any railing or warning lines on the ground preventing ol' Mike TV from running up to the Wonkavision camera and demanding that the Oompa Loompas shrink and transmit him across the room. People have been fired for blogging about their coworkers. Can you imagine the liability involved with turning a customer into a blueberry?

The very, very first VHS tape we owned had a copy of Willy Wonka on it followed by Pete's Dragon. People use the phrase jokingly, but I literally wore that tape out watching those films as a kid. I occasionally rewatch watch them and with kid eyes they're still entertaining. With adult eyes, oof.

Re: Wonka-vision as an adult

by AArdvark » Wed Mar 23, 2022 2:55 pm

I apologize. Originally this was going to be an amusing blog post. Somehow it turned into a racist rant (at least all the children were white Europeans) and I just deleted most of it.

The grandson's viewing history on Disney+ is filled with garbage shows and movies, I should have been clear about that. Sorry.

Re: Wonka-vision as an adult

by Casual Observer » Wed Mar 23, 2022 2:49 pm

AArdvark wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:45 pmI will say that everything else in the little guy's movie history was absolute garbage
Gene Wilder's movie history is "absolute garbage"?

Wonka-vision as an adult

by AArdvark » Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:45 pm

The missus and I were babysitting the grandson the other night and I was requested to put a movie on, something I would not normally do. After perusing Disney+ for several minutes, I chose Willy Wonka as the best of a bad lot. I even had to turn up the sound, ug. Since everyone has seen this 1971 move a gazillion times I wont include a plot summary. I will say that everything else in the little guy's movie history was absolute garbage. Besides, no other Disney movies will ever include a chicken beheading and little orange people coming out of the walls. That's good enough reason for me to watch.

Funny, as an adult there are some basic questions about parts of the movie that took away the wonder and magic that I experienced when seeing this for the first time. For instance, Wonka fired all his employees after his competitors kept sending in spies as workers to steal his secret recipes. He locked the gates and nobody goes in or out. This was explained by a street sweeper as Charlie looked in through said locked gates at the chimney with the light-up WONKA letters. Well, if Wonka fired all the local employees, what kind of tax incentives did he lose from the local government, huh? Ask yourself that! I feel like I'm going all Commander here. (verb-nouns! HA!!) Are the little orange people scabs?

Veruca Salt is a serious karen. Violet would make a good YouTube influencer. Mike Teevee is the ultimate consumer, Disney should be proud of him. Charlie's four aunts and uncles (that never get out of bed) are an economic drain on the family, they don't even get Welfare! I don't know about Britian's NHS policy regarding elder abuse but there's a good case for it here.

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