loafergirl wrote:Aww, look it Pinners coming to the rescue!

No need for the thread to be ruined... just keep on posting songs referencing the devil, s'all good.

pinback wrote:

Tdarcos wrote:

loafergirl wrote:*surprised eyebrows* Jonsey, not feeling "Sympathy for the Devil"? It's an awesome song... PLUS it ties into another good song (Don McLean's American Pie)

"And as the flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite
I saw Satan laughing with delight
The day the music died..."

was a reference to the Stones hiring Hells Angels to do security at a concert, where a fan got stabbed to death right after 'Sympathy for the Devil" was played.

No, it wasn't.

You really are a fuckhead. Its not JUST about the plane crash, and loafergirls interpretation of the fifth verse is generally accepted as correct. But you know every fucking thing so I won't confuse you with the facts.

This was a great thread once. Sorry, Retro.

Tdarcos wrote:

loafergirl wrote:*surprised eyebrows* Jonsey, not feeling "Sympathy for the Devil"? It's an awesome song... PLUS it ties into another good song (Don McLean's American Pie)

"And as the flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite
I saw Satan laughing with delight
The day the music died..."

was a reference to the Stones hiring Hells Angels to do security at a concert, where a fan got stabbed to death right after 'Sympathy for the Devil" was played.

No, it wasn't.

loafergirl wrote:*surprised eyebrows* Jonsey, not feeling "Sympathy for the Devil"? It's an awesome song... PLUS it ties into another good song (Don McLean's American Pie)

"And as the flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite
I saw Satan laughing with delight
The day the music died..."

was a reference to the Stones hiring Hells Angels to do security at a concert, where a fan got stabbed to death right after 'Sympathy for the Devil" was played.

Tdarcos wrote:

pinback wrote:That was a bad take, and a bad post.

Which can be said about practically everything you have written in this section. And I do not accept that you have the right to silence me on commenting about music

The Rolling Stones Honky Tonk Woman is another in the long series of stories of (essentially innocent) men who visit a brothel and their naivete* causes them to get into trouble. The most famous being The Animals Heart of the Rising Sun.

The concept is a very good one for a storyteller because they can look at it from many angles. Does the boy become jaded toward women because he had to buy one? Does he fall for a woman who only sees him as an ATM? Does the encounter cause him social problems? These and other rich, complex issues can be drawn out from what otherwise is a simple thing: a man buying a time with a woman.

Plus it's illegal most places which also opens up blackmail and/or scandal.

The Stones do another take on social issues when they look at a boy (presumably white) interested in a negro girl on a slave ship in Brown Sugar.

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* This word has accent marks but if I use them this board's software will blank my message.

pinback wrote:That was a bad take, and a bad post.

RetroRomper wrote:[youtube][/youtube]

Thinking about it, there are maybe three or four ways to take this song:

*Intellectually
*Culturally
*Genre
*Historically

To open myself up to ridicule and "Reasons Why I'll Never Be Able to Run for Office," the idea of Satan has always intrigued me: he is afar more sympathetic creation than the idea of a perfect being, dealing in and of the affairs of humanity. My affinity for this song kinda comes from that perspective, but, BUT it also illustrates to me why the Rolling Stones were considered "vulgar" in pushing these ideas in a conservative era.

Hearing it then kinda opened me up to a time and place I will never experience, which was pretty amazing and once again a bit of a MIND FUCK. The music itself I find really simple: a bit of maracas, repeating chorus, and the lyrics themselves laid over all these simple elements.

While there have been more complicated and intellectually stimulating songs on the subject (Neutral Milk Hotel and Cake sang extensively about Satan and his place in society,) this song really did perk me up and made me appreciate... Well... Music, that much more.