by Red Rage Walrustitty » Tue Jun 10, 2003 12:18 pm
Good Lord. What nonsense goeth on.
Jonsey, you LUNATIC. You admit that you've only looking at movies seriously for the past couple years, yet you can't even understand what I'm saying about Starship Troopers. I mean, geez, I never said that the movie should be taken seriously. It is parody - parody is supposed to be funny. It is a parody of WW2 movies (where everyone is young, beautiful, and has straight white gleaming teeth, and machine guns are popular) as well as presenting a world that resolves around the military - in which you can't be a citizen unless you're served in the military.
Watching Robocop again the other night, I remembered just how similar the two movies are in tone - very similar "newsbites" breaking up the action, and a similar parody, in Robocop's case, big business and unions. However, in both cases, Verhoeven never lets it get in the way of the action and the splashy gore. You can enjoy the movie purely as action, or enjoy its satire, or both. To call either movie pretentious, as you seem to be doing, is just plain silly. Platoon? Possibly pretentious. Starship Troopers? Hell no.
(Speaking of that, as mentioned earlier, I've got the unrated Robocop, which is why Violet mentions Murphy's entire arm getting blown off, which is, IIRC, completely cut from the R-rated version.)
So, mister, I think you should maybe see a few more classics (like, for example, "Citizen Kane") before spouting off at the mouth. Oh, and anyone who actually has seen Fitzcarraldo would recommend it over virtually any big-budget Hollywood junk. Oh, and "Two Towers" was worse than the first one. And, Dead Alive has more raw zeal than anything else Peter Jackson has done and is ever likely to do. It's a chunkblower classic. To claim that I poop on Two Towers because I don't like D&D is farcical as I don't poop on the first one, and I'm a big fan of "Dungeon Siege" and an even bigger fan of LEVELLING UP.
As for SISKEL - try learning how not to double post (or at least, delete your second post) before trying to school me on movies.
As for you, <strike>Big J</strike> Violet (hopefully that's an allowed HTML on this site, otherwise it'll look like shit and won't be editable), it sounded like you did not care for Blade Runner at all after you saw it, now you're here talking it up?
Blade Runner is the ultimate example of a pretentious movie being taken way too seriously. There's absolutely NOTHING there. Some pretty skyscapes and that's about it. Legend has exactly the same problem - it's all about the looks, while it's atrociously bad in every other way. Let's face it - Ridley Scott did one, exactly one, good movie - Alien - and that was it.
Debating about whether or not Ford was a replicant is pointless. Ridley is still laughing about having you feebs going on and on debating it. In terms of movie quandries, that ranks just below why Cathy (not Mrs W) won't eat breakfast and just above whether the blowjob as the end of "Brown Bunny" is real or imagined.
Good Lord. What nonsense goeth on.
Jonsey, you LUNATIC. You admit that you've only looking at movies seriously for the past couple years, yet you can't even understand what I'm saying about Starship Troopers. I mean, geez, I never said that the movie should be taken seriously. It is [i]parody[/i] - parody is supposed to be funny. It is a parody of WW2 movies (where everyone is young, beautiful, and has straight white gleaming teeth, and machine guns are popular) as well as presenting a world that resolves around the military - in which you can't be a citizen unless you're served in the military.
Watching Robocop again the other night, I remembered just how similar the two movies are in tone - very similar "newsbites" breaking up the action, and a similar parody, in Robocop's case, big business and unions. However, in both cases, Verhoeven never lets it get in the way of the action and the splashy gore. You can enjoy the movie purely as action, or enjoy its satire, or both. To call either movie pretentious, as you seem to be doing, is just plain silly. Platoon? Possibly pretentious. Starship Troopers? Hell no.
(Speaking of that, as mentioned earlier, I've got the unrated Robocop, which is why Violet mentions Murphy's entire arm getting blown off, which is, IIRC, completely cut from the R-rated version.)
So, mister, I think you should maybe see a few more classics (like, for example, "Citizen Kane") before spouting off at the mouth. Oh, and anyone who actually has seen Fitzcarraldo [i]would[/i] recommend it over virtually any big-budget Hollywood junk. Oh, and "Two Towers" was worse than the first one. And, Dead Alive has more raw zeal than anything else Peter Jackson has done and is ever likely to do. It's a chunkblower classic. To claim that I poop on Two Towers because I don't like D&D is farcical as I don't poop on the first one, and I'm a big fan of "Dungeon Siege" and an even bigger fan of LEVELLING UP.
As for SISKEL - try learning how not to double post (or at least, delete your second post) before trying to school me on movies.
As for [i]you[/i], <strike>Big J</strike> Violet (hopefully that's an allowed HTML on this site, otherwise it'll look like shit and won't be editable), it sounded like you did not care for Blade Runner at all after you saw it, now you're here talking it up?
Blade Runner is the [i]ultimate[/i] example of a pretentious movie being taken [i]way[/i] too seriously. There's absolutely NOTHING there. Some pretty skyscapes and that's about it. Legend has exactly the same problem - it's all about the looks, while it's atrociously bad in every other way. Let's face it - Ridley Scott did one, exactly one, good movie - Alien - and that was it.
Debating about whether or not Ford was a replicant is pointless. Ridley is still laughing about having you feebs going on and on debating it. In terms of movie quandries, that ranks just below why Cathy (not Mrs W) won't eat breakfast and just above whether the blowjob as the end of "Brown Bunny" is real or imagined.