pinback wrote:Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:
Star Trek 6
Star Trek: First Contact
You 6/First Contact people
make me so mad.
I am not a strong proponent of First Contact. But shit blew up nicely. Yes, it makes no sense and is dumb and Picard isn't written at all like Picard. But shit blew up nicely.
You're completely insane when it comes to the Undiscovered Country.
Star Trek 6 was the end of the voyages of the crew that I grew up watching. It seemed to be on all the time. I can't explain how
alien Star Trek was to little ICJ. I fucking hated Sesame Street and Mr Rogers and all that crap. At that age I didn't know what was happening in Star Trek. Didn't know any of the characters, didn't appreciate Spock, didn't know jack shit. But it looked different and genuinely futuristic and there were bold colors and Scotty spoke funny and I liked the girls in their skirts and boots, though I didn't know why.
As I got older, I watched all the episodes again and understood what was going on. The low budget gives the show so much charm. Nimoy was the first decent television character and remained that way for years. Spock is still probably the best television character in history depending on how you feel about Missah White.
I think people remember UC as being better than it was, since it had been so long since any of those movies were even passable. But it isn't. The prison scenes are an excuse for dick jokes, the "bad Kirk/good Kirk thing", and getting that hot chick screentime.
Punching a guy in the knees, which is really his testicles, is not a "dick joke." It is believable because Kirk had been punching out aliens for 40 years at that point in his fictional career.
Shatner was, what, 60 in that movie? I thought it was nice that he still thought he could seduce Mrs. Bowie in that one scene. It really is poking fun at Shatner and Kirk together. And McCoy rolling his eyes at it -- haha, come on. Do you not have a SOUL? That's some good shit. That was a great scene that meant something to everyone who sat through 77 episodes (or whatever) of James T. Kirk.
The rest of the movie is a not-quite-good-enough-to-be-called-mediocre whodunnit. Which is fine, but this is STAR TREK. There was no STAR TREKKIN', just a bunch of amateur Sherlock Holmeses.
Yes, Sherlock Holmes, the character that has so little to do with Star Trek that
his entry on the Trekipedia is almost as long as every single word entered into this BBS from end to end.
And the final showdown consists of one torpedo, and an explosion, the film for which would be immediately re-used in the following movie. Granted, that's not this movie's fault, but it's hard not to laugh and cringe every time you see that.
I made a Youtube video where I used footage of Magnolia interlaced with my dick, so Magnolia sucks now. Sorry, you can no longer think it is good.
They shot a ship that couldn't have shields but had cloak and could fire while cloaked, right? Did you actually watch the movie? What do you think happens to a ship with no shields that has a science fiction torpedo shot through it? How many do you believe it should take to destroy such a ship? With no shields, I will re-state. I'll wait for you to come up with a number and pretend that Sulu didn't say "target that explosion and fire" which means there was more than one torpedo anyway.