Prometheus

by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:58 pm

pinback wrote:Wow, okay. Nobody liked this movie as much as I did. That's fair. I can live with that.

I'm here to make money.

by **RetroRomper** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:17 pm

I've tried to watch it again but getting past the socially stunted and cliche interactions of the crew after they get out of stasis is... Difficult.

If I fast forward through most of the movie to near the latter half of the middle well hey, great film! Having to sit through that stereotyped duo discovering vaguely xenomorphic lifeforms all while hoping the buck toothed mineralogist dies?

No thank you.

by **pinback** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:04 pm

Wow, okay. Nobody liked this movie as much as I did. That's fair. I can live with that.

by **RetroRomper** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:49 am

The mythology of this movie struck more than the general story or acting: I was quick to notice the similarities between this movie and Milton's Paradise lost and almost instantaneously latched onto the undertone of searching for a vague remedy to death as a form of trying to bypass the search for either Paradise or Purgatory.

Looking at the movie from a normal bend, it isn't that interesting, as they for some odd reason try to shoe horn a number of forgettable characters into meaningful plots. Instead, it would have been much more interesting to see the travel of one specific character from perhaps the position of ignorance into searching for the meaning behind the history, the nearly eons old story that was suggested by the opening sequence.

Which is what happened near the end (she goes off to search for Paradise, Heaven, the home of our Gods essentially) and hopefully they'll cut out the cruft for the sequel...

Hopefully.

by **pinback** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:19 am

AArdvark wrote:Good deal. Actually I'm planning on watching the whole thing sometime in the near future, mostly prompted because of this thread.

Oh yeah, one other thing. The egg shaped space helmets they all wear look kinda stupid, but that's just me, ya know?

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by **AArdvark** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:05 am

Good deal. Actually I'm planning on watching the whole thing sometime in the near future, mostly prompted because of this thread.

Oh yeah, one other thing. The egg shaped space helmets they all wear look kinda stupid, but that's just me, ya know?

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by **pinback** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:16 am

No that was it

by **AArdvark** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:12 am

I looked in on parts of this yesterday. It was on in the living room while I was walking through a couple of times. This is what I saw:

I saw a weird head on a table start to come to life somehow and then explode.

Later, there was a large, multi-tentacled thing that grabbed a humanoid alien while an actual human escaped. At first she was going to go after it with an axe, which I found to be very amusing in a The Shining kind of way.

Did I miss anything? Was there a cat in this movie?

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RE-TOLD
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by **Flack** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:03 am

I thought this was pretty bad ass and it makes me watch to watch the movie.

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by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:17 pm

He was the son of Eric Clapton, but he took up dubstep.

by **Audience** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:17 pm

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:Ridley Scott, aside from Brade Runnah, Alien and (I have never seen it, but I am GIVING this to you) Thema & Louise has wasted more potential than any other human being in the history of the planet besides Conor Clapton.

Wait, how did Conor Clapton waste his potential?

by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:14 pm

Oh, that.

OK.

Look. Charlize falling for, "Are you a robot?" was the most unbelievable part of the entire movie. Even more than Guy Pearce's makeup, or an Asian engaging in low-stakes gambling.

I accept that Charlize has needs and wants. I accept that she found the starship captain attractive. ALL little girls find two things attractive: unicorn dick and startship captains. That's fine... what is not fine is anyone in any world "sealing the deal" that way.

"Are you a robot?" Christ.

Oh, I would normally blame Ridley Scott for not showing the two of them banging. But like I said before, he's had a tough time of things lately with the death of his brother, so to not pick at that wound, I blame Tony Scott for Charlize and Stringer Bell not banging on film. How it probably went is that the two of them showed up ready to bang and the ghost of Tony made the "cut! cuuuuuuuuuuuut!" sign above their heads.

That being said, if Charlize didn't just decide to have sex like a switch was flipped, and maybe instead if the greatest actor in the world could do actor things and make us care about her character, I would have PROBABLY cared more when she met her fate and got what should have been the true ending to every level of Wanda and the Colossus.

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....... CHRIST I am knocking it out of the fucking park with this post.

by **pinback** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:39 pm

I'm guessing people like Prometheus the most the first time they watch it. I doubt (but will see!) if it improves on subsequent viewings.

You pointed out flaws in the movie that I don't think a lot of people could argue with. It's just... there was so much more. I would argue that the parts not actively engaged in your complaints were of a high enough quality to forgive.

And at least Charlize was human enough to demand that Stringer Bell give 'er the high hard one. Not a total robot, see?

by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:18 pm

Also, I didn't like Sunshine the first time, but I loved it when I watched it times 2-5.

by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:16 pm

Yes, the opening scene stuff was great.

The c-section bit was great. (MALE PRIVILEGE!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The captain was great.

The bit where Charlize does push-ups was great. (MALE PRIVILEGE!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Why the fuck was Guy Pearce in this movie. That was stupid and awkward.

"17" people being on the ship was pointless.

Give me SOME reason to care about the guy with the tattoos on his head. "I'm here to make money." God, act like you're happy to be writing a fucking screenplay.

Everyone liked Fassbender, and I did as well.

Just, Christ. What were they DOING with their lives? I am actually offended that they wasted the best actor in the world with having her be some personality-free robot. You can pay in hell for that, "Ridley."

Ridley Scott, aside from Brade Runnah, Alien and (I have never seen it, but I am GIVING this to you) Thema & Louise has wasted more potential than any other human being in the history of the planet besides Conor Clapton. Scott putting these movies together with the cast and the way they look without having them DO anything is offensive to every other creative person in the world. Ben, if you had that budget, cast and access to that sort of cinematography, you have made the greatest sci-fi movie in the world. How does that taste, Ridley? How does that fucking taste on the back of your tongue, Ridley, you piece of cra--

Man, I know his brother just died and there is a slight chance he finds this so I would rather stop.

by **pinback** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:05 pm

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:What on earth did you guys like about it, except for how it looked?

Also, for an art form that is primarily visual, I don't think you can HAND-WAVE over "how it looked" anymore. I think the time has come where people should stop doing that.

How it looks counts.

"Yeah, but a Michael Bay movie LOOKS gre--" no. No it doesn't. Three thousand CGI explosions and shit doesn't mean it looks great.

Prometheus looks GREAT, even (often especially) when it's doing nothing.

Even the opening credits journey was fucking BREATHTAKING, and you don't get to discard that from your rating. You (Robb Sherwin) no longer get to say, that doesn't count. Oh, it counts.

It counts like a BITCH.

by **pinback** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:58 pm

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:What on earth did you guys like about it, except for how it looked?

The pacing of the first half is a lost art. It was pure adventure, unravelling slowly, with characters you could name. Many have said it owes more to 2001 than to Alien, and while that comparison isn't fair to anyone, it was refreshing to see a sci-fi movie where nothing EWW GROSS YAY EXPLOSION was happening for an HOUR, and yet we were kept in rapt fascination. The journey to LV-223? The Statue Room or whatever? The little mapper robots? An obscure opening sequence filled with gore and wonder? Surely a science fiction fan's wet dream.

The second half goes a little more GROSS EXPLOSIONY, and does seem like much of it may have wound up on the cutting room floor, but never ceases with offering up wondrous, thrilling scenes, even if they don't make sense. The Space Jockey and his galactic map? Wow, right?

The movie is less than the sum of its parts. But holy cow, those parts! Has your soul died, man?

Also Charlize Theron in form-fitting uniform. DROPS MIC.

by **Ice Cream Jonsey** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:43 am

What on earth did you guys like about it, except for how it looked?

Oh, the part where the girl gave herself the c-section was a really great scene and differed nicely from all the other Alien movies. That part was great.

by **pinback** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:32 am

I knew he wouldn't like it. Of course Sunshine was better.

Oh well. This has been... the Prometheus thread!

by **Flack** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:02 am

You didn't like it? I thought it was very artistic, even though parts of it were confusing.

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