Married With Children

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by AArdvark » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:03 am

Harsh, man.


Freaking harsh.


THE
ALL DISGRUNTLED
AARDVARK

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:49 pm

Much has changed since you were last with us, Bugs.

by Bugs » Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:06 pm

What's with the quotes? Are you the new Aardvark?

by Tdarcos » Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:17 am

Bugs wrote:SPOILER ALERT
His mother is a car.
No shit, Sherlock. Care to tell us anything we didn't know, like Star Trek was a show about a trek out to the stars, or that Stargate SG-1 was about a military team identified as SG-1 that used a star gate to travel, or that Barney Miller is the story of a police captain named Book 'Em Dano, or that Meet the Press is a show about steaks being put in a compression grill, and so on?

"All I know about history is that Columbus sailed to Ohio in 1776."
- Ricky Ricardo, I Love Lucy

by Bugs » Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:53 pm

SPOILER ALERT
















His mother is a car.

by Tdarcos » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:08 pm

Flack wrote:I think the real crime here is that no one is talking about My Mother, The Car.
The copyright date on the end credit scene with the red car driving down the street, indicates the show was made in 1965 (MCMLXV), I thought the show was (1) in black and white and (2) in the late 1950s or possibly 1960 or 1961.

This tells me something about what people can pass on, I had the impression the show was basically horrible, like a video version of the Edsel (no pun intended). Wikipedia, in fact, reports it is either the worst show ever made or the second worst after Jerry Springer.

Also, it might be they didn't have them then, but I note the car had a standard (for then) California yellow on black license plate, (PZR 317) typically if you have a car over 20 years old - in the show, this car would have been nearly 40 years old - you can get historic or antique license plates for it.

One thing they did not do that LA Law got in trouble with, is the plate does not have year stickers on it. Someone wrote a note in TV Guide to note that the LA Law opening scene, where the guy slams the trunk on a car with that license plate, failed to update the opening because it was later than the year on the stickers and it meant those tags were expired.

by Tdarcos » Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:57 pm

pinback wrote:The other thing that Family Guy does the very very very best is the comedic concept of doing something funny, then repeating it until it stops being funny, then continuing to repeat it until it becomes funny once again!
TVTropes refers to this as Crosses the Line Twice and the example even references a thought that if someone being in pain is funny, more pain would be more funny.

Personally, I like Family Guy a lot more than The Simpsons, although I don't know if putting Cleveland in a spinoff of his own was justifiable, I didn't think he was that significant a character.

Let's take A Christmas Carol, and consider that we might have been able to do a spin-off of Jacob Marley: The Early Years to show how he was before he met Ebineezer Scrooge. I doubt we could do much with Bob Cratchitt or Tiny Tim unless it devolved into a pity party about how horrible things are. And there's nothing there to do a story about an Elizabethan England Pawn Broker (the guy who buys the curtains from the old woman). (Although some might have said the same thing about a current-day Las Vegas pawnbroker).

by Flack » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:11 am

Forgot to mention that I picked up the Family Guy Star Wars Trilogy on Blu-ray last weekend. Haven't had a chance to sift through them yet and I've already seen all three of them, although I think this contains several extras.

Re: Married With Children

by pinback » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:29 am

RetroRomper wrote:Could you say that throughout the series, he is constantly riding his mother?
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Re: Married With Children

by RetroRomper » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:01 am

Could you say that throughout the series, he is constantly riding his mother?

by pinback » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:10 pm

I don't get it. His mother's a... a car?

by Flack » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:45 pm

I think the real crime here is that no one is talking about My Mother, The Car.

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by pinback » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:04 pm

RetroRomper wrote:That is, he built on the history of that medium (musicals) by including them in a different medium, as opposed to a bunch of fart and fuck jokes that don't ask the viewer anything except for five seconds of attention.
The true genius is that there are fart and fuck jokes IN THE MUSICALS!

The other thing that Family Guy does the very very very best is the comedic concept of doing something funny, then repeating it until it stops being funny, then continuing to repeat it until it becomes funny once again!

The seminal example, of course, being...

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BONUS: looolololl;olool

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by RetroRomper » Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:07 pm

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:No, just kidding, but I am on CO's side. I get that a lot of people who got into acting did musicals in high school, college, or whatever classes they took when they dropped out of college. I get it.
The fact he made musicals the subject of his homage was unimportant: Seth followed through with the idea and interwove them into a coherent statement, a development of a thought in the episodes he dedicated to them. That is, he built on the history of that medium (musicals) by including them in a different medium, as opposed to a bunch of fart and fuck jokes that don't ask the viewer anything except for five seconds of attention.

And as an aside, it is always a pleasure to see someone delve into a topic they are fascinated and have dedicated their time to, then cross it with the one they have developed a career around. Not only is the subject matter explored thoroughly, but it also required quite a bit of time, thought, and planning to execute correctly. Seth approached a problem, correlated it with a topic he knows well, and the result is an extension of the two original modes he was interested in.
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:But it's as dumb as Stephen King making all his protagonists authors, or a text game author making his protagonists computer programmers (which I have, sadly, done, cha cha cha).
When were trying to understand the motivations of a character, it is natural for us to reflect upon ourselves. Seriously, who have we spent more time contemplating? Viewing alternate circumstances for?

Arguably, you could say its egocentric: not being able to explore the mind of another is a sign of lack of understanding, empathy, and banality (arguably). But besides arguments that were playing out our fantasies when writing a story, it makes sense that we place a character into a role or position were intrinsically familiar with.

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:30 pm

Also, holy fuck, we're all having a CONVERSATION again! It feels nice. It's been a few years.

This is nice, isn't it fellas? PS I wrote "cha cha cha" at the end of my last post so it would be In The Style Of... a show tune, the very medium I was showing disdain for.

It's like playing chess with the pieces made out of onions. Layers and layers at work here, lurkers!

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:29 pm

You make a good point, Retro. I'll try not to use it as the tip of the Internet stiletto I'm going to then use to destroy you with.

No, just kidding, but I am on CO's side. I get that a lot of people who got into acting did musicals in high school, college, or whatever classes they took when they dropped out of college. I get it.

But it's as dumb as Stephen King making all his protagonists authors, or a text game author making his protagonists computer programmers (which I have, sadly, done, cha cha cha).

by RetroRomper » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:13 pm

Guess you wouldn't be a fan of "Road to Rhode Island" ? When Seth delved into his musical tastes and presented them in a very structured, homage tinged in parody way, they felt more honest and concrete than the random sex jokes that are interlaced throughout the series (and mainly used for effect). The entire type of humor that Seth employs, is that sort of "gag a minute" reel that is meant to elicit a laugh in response, then be forgotten twenty seconds later.

The musical episodes suggest a longevity to the jokes: not only is he referencing a pedigree of show tunes, but they build upon themselves in the cartoon and in an obtuse, contrived way, have an order and punch line that actually has reason and artful flavor as opposed to once again, random rape jokes and vaguely defined shock humor that isn't shocking anymore. Which is perhaps how South Park commented on the absurdity of a recent event: they didn't illustrate an example (George W. Bush hiding in a tree house in Family Guy) but instead attacked the underlying issue of the problem (the episode where the children confront an insane Mel Gibson for their money back after seeing "Passion of the Christ," they removed the issue as it stood and instead pointed to how absurd the entire argument was).

In either event, the idea builds and references itself while taking into account outside sources, creating either a full homage (as in Road to Rhode Island) or deeper exploration of an issue (as South Park did numerous times).

Summary: Preferred the musical episodes of Family Guy to the three every other beat, fart and sex gags.

PS CO, u r dumb

by CO » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:32 pm

pinback wrote:And some of the Family Guy musical numbers are the most brilliant things ever broadcast, so CO, u r dumb.
Ok, the "you've got aids" one was funny as hell and a few others were ok. All's I'm saying is I could do with a little less of teh gay showtunes.

In my opinion the most recent Christmas special was one of the funniest things I've seen in my life. The entire thing was roll on the floor funny from the trip to the north pole to the demented santa workshop but the best part was stewie saying "this is not christmas anymore, it's a home invasion".

by pinback » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:19 pm

I still keep up with South Park. I find it to be more "clever" than funny. I don't LOL, but I will occasionally smile knowingly.

And some of the Family Guy musical numbers are the most brilliant things ever broadcast, so CO, u r dumb.

by Flack » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:36 pm

RetroRomper wrote:
Flack wrote:I really only watch The Simpsons when my kids are around and I don't feel like explaining adult Family Guy jokes to them.
Family Guy was nominated for a "teen choice award" on Nickelodeon. Whether the innuendo, off color remarks, and musical parodies were popular with the "tween" demographic, is still unclear.
May be. I flipped it on the other day and within the first minute there was a sex joke followed by a rape joke. While it may be popular in the 6 and 10 year old demographics as well, it's not in their father's (at least while all three are in the same room).

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