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by Ice Cream Jonsey » Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:04 pm

Baseball voted on a new commissioner this evening to replace Allan H. "Bud" Selig, the guy that canceled the World Series and did nothing regarding rampant PED use and did everything possible to lineup a Yankees / Red Sox post-season every year.

The last two guys were a normal dude (Rob Manfred) and someone who was a president for the Boston Red Sox.

So with great pleasure I read that Blue Jays President Paul Beeston argued AGAINST THE GUY who isn't currently employed by the BOSTON RED SOX.

Beeston has been the most incompetent team president in baseball history and has actively been working against his own teams' best interests for years.

The fact that this dumb shit argued against Rob Manfred (who got the job, he's the new commish) leads me to believe that Manfred may be the first decent commissioner baseball has had since Bart Giamatti.

There's two incompetent cocksuckers running football and hockey, but we may finally have a 50/50 split in the four major sports.

by AArdvark » Thu May 29, 2014 2:54 am

They're the ones made out of wax that you get around Halloween.


THE
BLEAH, BLEAH
AARDVARK

by Flack » Wed May 28, 2014 7:19 pm

Is that black guy wearing yellow plastic vampire teeth?

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Tue May 27, 2014 8:35 pm

Annnnnnd my edit, because they're killing everyone out there.

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Tue May 27, 2014 8:34 pm

The 2014 Blue Jays reacting to ANOTHER home run by Edwin Encarnacion:

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by ICJ » Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:18 pm

Oh yeah! And the playoff no hitter. That won't happen again in Paul's lifetime.

by pinback » Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:35 pm

And a perfect game as the cherry on top! Even though it was in a year with three perfect games.

("TWO!" - J. Joyce)

SIIIIIGH. Two.

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:00 pm

Bugs wrote:He was the rare bright spot in a pretty grim period, that's for sure. But HoF? I'm not sure. Convince my white ass.
Well:

2 Cy Young Awards, finished in the top 5 voting 7 times.

8 time All-Star. (I think All-Star appearances mean a little more in baseball than they do in football. It seems like with football, you can have 6 guys technically be All-Pro quarterbacks per conference because guys get hurt and don't go.)

7 times he was the league leader in complete games. I feel this will count as a "throwback" stat for the 90 year old apeshitters that actually do the voting for the HoF. Not having a hint of steroid use will also help.

You can make the argument that for a stretch of time he was the best pitcher in baseball. In 2011, when Clayton Kershaw won the Cy Young award, Roy had a greater WAR - 8.9 to 6.5. (I really do believe that should have been his third Cy Young.)

I think he'll get warm memories for pitching against NY and Boston for 12 years.

Here's what he's got for various hall of fame monitors:

Black Ink Pitching - 48, Average HOFer ≈ 40

Gray Ink Pitching - 180, Average HOFer ≈ 185

Hall of Fame Monitor Pitching - 126, Likely HOFer ≈ 100

Hall of Fame Standards Pitching - 45 , Average
HOFer ≈ 50

The Black Ink test is about how many amazing things you've done (top 5 in various categories), gray ink is the same, but for a top 10 finish. Instinct would say that Doc's career was a year or two too short, and the gray ink test shows that. He didn't quite "hang around" like a lot of HoF pitchers did, to rack up those extra finishes where he was the 9th best in the league at something.

by Tdarcos » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:58 pm

Don't mean to post twice but I should clarify my comment. If I'm not mistaken, there are no Canadian football teams in the NFL, is that correct? So why is a Canadian baseball team in the American league?

Does the NFL have a restrictive rule or is it just that there's a lot more money in Football and as such, the Canadian teams can't afford the buy-in, or they just never had any teams good enough to get into the NFL but baseball is easier or they just snuck in when the standards were lower?

by Tdarcos » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:53 pm

I have just one question.

Can someone explain to me why the Toronto Blue Jays are in the American League? I didn't quite get to go that far, when our family visited Niagara Falls in 2002, we only went as far as St. Catherine's, about 10 miles, Toronto was another 60 miles up the QEW in Ontario.

"Tonight on ESPN, the World Series, Live from Tokyo!"
- Total Recall

by Bugs » Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:30 am

He was the rare bright spot in a pretty grim period, that's for sure. But HoF? I'm not sure. Convince my white ass.

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:45 am

Bugs wrote:Given the late start to his dominant career, will we see Roy in the HoF one day? And what hat will he be wearing?
I gotta think that Doc is a first-ballot hall of famer, and goes in with a Jays cap. (Especially since he signed the one-day contract with Toronto. Which is also the Jay's biggest move at the winter meetings so far. Ouch...)

I guess it's OK for me to go ahead and get the Chinese knock-off HALLADAY 32 jersey now that I know he won't be playing for NY or BOS.

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:58 pm

A few years ago, Ben, Bryan and I used to write for a website called Trotting Krips. I made a fake user to announce updates, the "content beaver." Like, when there was new content for the site, the content beaver would let everyone know. The CON-tent beaver/

A few months ago, my friend Jenny, who had encountered the content beaver on the Internet through auxiliary means, said that at first she thought it meant content, as in satisfied. The content beaver. The con-TENT beaver.

Either way works for me.

I am not sure who is currently posting as the content beaver, but I love him or her very dearly for doing so.

by Bugs » Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:09 pm

What the fuck has happened to this place? "content beaver?" You've picked up a lot of weird followers over the years, Robb.

by content beaver » Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:09 pm

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by Ice Cream Jonsey » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:59 pm

All right, if I can't write something about Roy leaving, then I can't write about anything.

by content beaver » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:13 pm

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by Bugs » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:18 pm

If he wins with Philly, I will understand how Bruins fans felt when Ray Bourque finally won a Stanley Cup w/ the Avalanche after 537 seasons in Boston. Unlike you, Robb, there are only a handful of teams in MLB that I actively hate: The Yankees, Red Sox and Phillies (which made the world series fun this year; all i rooted for was both team buses to crash into each other).

I guess this is less painful than if he went somewhere else in the division, but I was holding out hope that the Angels would get him, a team that I sort of like (Scioscia's the man) and even pulled for in that WS against the Giants.

You're right, this is absolutely the result of that Cadre of Fuckwads DBA the Jays Front Office, for the last decade, being completely incapable of finding their own assholes with both hands and a flashlight, much less putting together a winning team.

This sucks, but I too have seen this coming for a while, and what helps me sleep at night is that, for Blue Jays baseball to return to prominence, things needed to get a lot worse before they could get better.

We did get some intriguing prospects in the deal, particularly Drabek. A+++++ WOULD DRAFT AGAIN pitching prospects always pan out, right? They never become complete busts, right?

(sigh)

Be happy, Robb, at least you have the Saints. Between the Bills and Jays, I wonder if either of my favorite teams will ever win a championship before the franchises are moved and stadiums are imploded.

Given the late start to his dominant career, will we see Roy in the HoF one day? And what hat will he be wearing?

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:14 pm

I know I should say a few words about how the greatest baseball player I've ever followed is no longer with my team. Sometimes I hate feeling obligated to write, like regarding the New Orleans trip.

Oh, I've got a thousand words in me, though.

Suffice it to say that we may very well get three prospects back that will be instrumental in a future championship.

But baseball is fundamentally broken if certain teams can have guys finish their entire careers in one uniform, and others can't. It disgusts me. Roy took signed two extensions for less-than-market value to stay in Toronto. I am so angry that I never got to see him pitch in a Jays uniform.

He'll pitch in Colorado some day, though. And I'll be there. The Rockies would be my "second favorite" team (though the distance is so great, it's better to say that they are the only team in baseball, with maybe my brother's Mariners, that I don't actively loathe) but when he eventually comes here to pitch, I'll be in the stands.

(Probably with a Chinese knockoff HALLADAY 32 jersey, bought specifically to not give MLB any money.)

But yeah, this is the worst thing that's ever happened in sports, at least to me. And it's the work of one guy - Paul Beeston, chief operating officer of the Jays - and the pieces of shit that make up the board of directors for Rogers Communications. Jays fans were robbed of something special because these assholes couldn't surround Roy with good players. I don't blame Roy in the least for finally accepting a trade. He's the best at what he does, and it was unacceptable that ownership couldn't put a better team around him.

It sucks. It hurts less than if it came out of the blue (I had been expecting this for half a year now) but still, I doubt anything in sports could be worse, unless it was the Saints moving or something.

When we get older, we're sort of looking for excuses not to follow certain teams and sports. I'm not quite there yet, but honestly, baseball is fundamentally broken. It should not be this way. It is uninteresting this way. I can't think of any other sport where, even if you have one of the five-best players in it, you have no shot at making the playoffs before the season starts.

That being said, I hope Roy wins a championship in Philly, and resigns wiith the Jays right as the players we got last night enter their prime.

What a nice little pipe dream.

by pinback » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:51 pm

How's it goin'?

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