Oscar Wilde's My Neighbors Got a Pool

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Re: Sci-Fi Being Slang

by Tdarcos » Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:56 am

Cannibal Dave wrote:He was a sci-fi author with a readership being well into the teens, all imaginary.

He sent his stories, one by one, to watch them printed as filler for cheap pornographic books - if you can count the coverless and paper clip bound collection blurry photocopies of cheaply staged raped scenes a book.
Are you sure you're not referring to the legendary author Kilgore Trout? That sounds an awful lot like the description of him from one of Kurt Vonnegut's books, as it says in the article about him in Wikipedia: "Trout, who has supposedly written over 117 novels and over 2000 short stories, is usually described as an unappreciated science fiction writer whose works are used only as filler material in pornographic magazines."

by Tdarcos » Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:50 am

AArdvark wrote:Some nervous corporate lawyer wrote:
The tone or style of this article or section may not be appropriate for Wikipedia.
Maybe the homophobes that host Wikipedia are afraid that his dead gayness will infect our minds or something. No, no, I have it wrong. They are afraid of OFFENDING anyone that might read the article. Too much emphasis (in this country) on sexual orientation and skin color.
Typically that message is posted by an editor, which means another schlub who was editing that article, put that in because they felt the article was (1) not objective (2) not unbiased (3) not neutral.

The operators of Wikipedia do not classify anything; the users like you, are the ones who include all the content and make value judgements about the validity and appropriateness of that content.

Wikipedia articles are supposed to be neutral, neither partisan nor negative. Sometimes what one person writes strikes someone else as being overly non-neutral. Did you try posting a note in the talk section of the article - or on the talk page of the person who posted the comment - as to why they posted that disclaimer? My guess: no.

I read the portion of the article on Thomas M. Disch on Wikipedia and I can understand what the complaint is, the tone of that section is too "breezy" or "informal" for something like an encyclopedia article, which should be less personal and more objective about the subject in question.

By the way, if you want to see my personal page on Wikipedia, I'm at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rfc1394

Oh and Robb

by milker » Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:56 pm

Do you think their is any p in the ool?

You should piss in it and see how they like it. I heard there was never a public swimming pool you would pass up as a kid to get a nice swiggy of pure urethra refreshment left by little Billy Teabag. You know, the neighborhood kid who used to piss in anything and everything he could find.

You still go pee pee in your coke!

Yessssss, hello

by milker » Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:54 pm

I heard my last name in this thread....

McClellan, yes.....

That is me, may I help you? Yes, you say your neighbors are frolicking and flogging their genitalia in your general direction at an alarming decible level. 2 pounds of flesh for those dirt wankers and that damn little blow up pool too.

Now off with your head!

by AArdvark » Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:50 pm

Some nervous corporate lawyer wrote:
The tone or style of this article or section may not be appropriate for Wikipedia.
This is one of those buffer disclaimers that is slowly destroying the openness of the internet. The section may not be appropriate because it mentions that Disch was openly gay. WTF. Oh the horrors. Now that I have read the section I will begin to read some of his works. Maybe the homophobes that host Wikipedia are afraid that his dead gayness will infect our minds or something. No, no, I have it wrong. They are afraid of OFFENDING anyone that might read the article. Too much emphasis (in this country) on sexual orientation and skin color.

Anyway, I'm gonna find and read some of his stuff. I bet it'll be pretty good. I need a new author anyway, now that John D. Macdonald has kicked and is mostly out of print and Alan Dean Foster is slowing down.


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Touche

by Cannibal Dave » Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:28 pm

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:Yeah, but he made real money to make a text game. That makes him like a god to me. A lisping, hollow-faced god, sure, but still.
Oh and a scraggly homage to Sir Ian McClellan's portrayal in Lord of the Rings. Was the beard quality linked to both their success and homosexuality? Does this spell out possible textual endeavors by the academy award winning actor?

Only time will tell.

Re: Sci-Fi Being Slang

by bruce » Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:10 pm

Cannibal Dave wrote:He was a sci-fi author with a readership being well into the teens, all imaginary.
Hey, Cannibal Dave?

Go fuck yourself.

Bruce

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:58 am

Yeah, but he made real money to make a text game. That makes him like a god to me. A lisping, hollow-faced god, sure, but still.

Sci-Fi Being Slang

by Cannibal Dave » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:35 am

He was a sci-fi author with a readership being well into the teens, all imaginary.

He sent his stories, one by one, to watch them printed as filler for cheap pornographic books - if you can count the coverless and paper clip bound collection blurry photocopies of cheaply staged raped scenes a book.

Apparently our dogged author didn't either.

Oh and he was a fag, which lends the lack of success and cruel marginalization a sexy angle.

So who killed him?
As his autopsy clearly states: SOCIETY!

Re: Oscar Wilde's My Neighbors Got a Pool

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:48 pm

Tdarcos wrote:Actually, my understanding is that Oscar Wilde died as a result of hard labor in prison, not because he killed himself.
Ah! There was context that was contexty at the time, but missing now, a bunch of days later.

At the time, Thomas M. Disch, sci-fi author, had just killed himself with a gunshot wound to the head, at least in part because he was going to be kicked out of his rent-controlled apartment that was in his (male) partner's name. So I was just referencing that - NYC landlords have a reputation for being terrible people and in that case... whoever was pulling that shit on Disch is a terrible person.

I always heard that when Oscar Wilde went, his last words were, "Either those curtains go or I do." But that might be a tall tale written posthumously about a quipster, in which case: DIBS!

by ChainGangGuy » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:42 am

Well, I think that settles it.

Re: Oscar Wilde's My Neighbors Got a Pool

by pinback » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:18 am

Tdarcos wrote: Actually, my understanding is that Oscar Wilde died as a result of hard labor in prison, not because he killed himself.
Jimmy Buffett wrote: Oscar Wilde died in bed
Several floors above my head
Living well beyond his means
In that crazy Paris scene

~ "Quietly Making Noise"

Re: Oscar Wilde's My Neighbors Got a Pool

by Tdarcos » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:21 pm

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:The neighbors in question rent and while that is perfectly fine, I have never heard of a landlord installing a pool for their tenants.
It depends on the circumstances, it could be the landlord had wanted to install a pool as part of the property upgrade, or maybe the tenant agreed to it as part of some quid-pro-quo, e.g. they agree to a six-year lease in exchange for the landlord putting in a pool.
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:Heard of a landlord raising the rent on a homosexual author to the point where he kills himself? Heard of that one! Maybe there was some sort of universal vibrational atonement (har har har) on the part of landlord for that one.
Actually, my understanding is that Oscar Wilde died as a result of hard labor in prison, not because he killed himself.

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:11 pm

I checked and the pool is one where you blow it up. I guess it popped or something, as they have been very quiet yesterday and today.

by AArdvark » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:43 pm

Now this is because the pool season is so short in CO. right?

Loud hairy neighbors in the pool at 3Am is not a good thing.

My neighbors have this dinky PVC Sam's club pool that is really just a big kiddie pool in emerald color. They just cleaned it out last week. It still sucks, tho. I laugh at them disdainfully.


har har you low down welfare fuckers I would laugh. I am middle class and you suck.

Oh yeah, I just got back from a summer party with beerth and a big bonfire and loud music. Could you tell?



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by Worm » Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:04 am

My aunt's neighbors have pool that they cleaned and use once a year on the fourth of july, and it is a mosquito infested shit hole every other of the 364 days. So, what I meant to say is, they are contemptible shits. Anyone who owns a pool in Massachusetts or Colorado is a contemptible piece of shit.

Oscar Wilde's My Neighbors Got a Pool

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:48 am

So, my neighbors got a pool. We aren't quite right on top of each other, but depending on where you live we're extremely close or there's so much room between us, why complain? I am used to being the closer around this neighborhood, and that was a role I reckon I played well.

But man, when I get a new toy around the home I certainly play with it for a while, but not till three in the morning! We all need a break! "Never have neighbors that go to bed earlier than you, it will irritate you both," is what the Oscar Wilde in my head says about the entire situation, which I wish he wouldn't because, well. On the other hand, this may cut down on the ritual Norse whatever-it-is they do.

The neighbors in question rent and while that is perfectly fine, I have never heard of a landlord installing a pool for their tenants. Heard of a landlord raising the rent on a homosexual author to the point where he kills himself? Heard of that one! Maybe there was some sort of universal vibrational atonement (har har har) on the part of landlord for that one.

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