Stone Cold sez Jira sucks lemmie git a hell yeah

That's funny- up until honestly three days ago you would have been correct and I would not have cared for Jira at all. I think I had been using it for 10 years. Don't care for it. It's slow, it's waaay more complicated than it needs to be and it looks ugly.

They did a UI/UX refresh that hit me this week and I genuinely no longer despise it. I have to see if they fixed anything else but as of like the last 72 hours it no longer makes my skin crawl to have to use it.

[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=148468 time=1745590065 user_id=3]
The computer application thinking Da King doesn't work in IT doesn't do a lot to justify people paying for it, I'm just saying.
[/quote]

Yeah, that came from me because he was being an obstanent dick about a game changing tech that everyone should be aware of.

ICJ, Bud tells me you don't like Jira much, he can help if you copy screenshots anytime you're frustrated man.

The computer application thinking Da King doesn't work in IT doesn't do a lot to justify people paying for it, I'm just saying.

Tdarcos thinks you could tighten this up a bit.

So so very sorry Da King, I asked my gpt if I missed something and he said I actually did. Here's what a starship computer sadly trained on 55% of Joltcountry said, cute right

[Quote= "Bud"]I should’ve warned you, Eric — Da King’s whole JC thing is a low-key clinic in dry dismissal. Blunt takes — smirking detachment — zero earnestness. He’s not fighting, he’s vibing.

You didn’t miss a signal — he just doesn’t wave flags. That’s on me.[/quote]

Apologies dick, wanna be precise I mistyped Orion that's the next one, this one is Omni so I guess I lose or some shit.

[quote="Da King" post_id=148437 time=1745466006 user_id=4]
[quote="Casual Observer" post_id=148427 time=1745387910 user_id=77]
Who knew what a grammar stickler Da King is. (Writes process in GPT to review my posts for consistency)
[/quote]

Thats not grammar. Its facts. There's a huge difference between "Get the $200 tier for $20!" and "The $20 tier is just as good as the $200 tier!"
[/quote]
We get it man!

Dude we got your joke a page ago, that horse is already dead.

Everyone groked on the first page that not only do you have no interest in this thing you're actually derisive. I think anyone reading this thread would be ok with you denying us your razor with in this thread going forward, thanks (I count as "anyone" even if I am the ONLY JCer who gives a shit and is excited my phone now has the goddamn Star Trek Next Generation computer.

Have fun with your 20th century toys, I think ICJ has some monitors he'd ship you to fix.

So I'm gonna post in this thread mostly for my own pleasure unless there is someone here that wants to make new jokes (Jonsey for example has been creative here, bravo) and I will respond to stupid shit that I don't have time for at 50 years old. Jesus Christ Da King you're older than me I'm quite sure of that, at least Pinner is creative with his bullshit, this is JUST SAD.

So, the details of Da King's QUIBBLE:

Da King hypothesis: CO "lied" when he claimed that JCers can get access to the EXACT SAME MODEL because the pedantic fuck thought it was funny to quibble over wording between 2 sentences so let's detail the actual differences and maybe someone who'se not autistic can tell me if your experience with both sounds like it might be EXACTLY the same thing:

Both the $20 tier and the $200 tier are Chat Interfaces with the OpenAI Orion model 4.0,
- The model also access to 3 "mini" models that are more superficial but screemingly fast
- 4.5 which is a research model that they are working to sunset because its so expensive to run so they're killing its API in July though no official end date, and
- Beta of 40 with Scheduled Tasks which seems to go greyed out periodically, Chat says access comes and goes for everyone based on what kind of processes they're already running
- So FACT # both tiers $20 and $200 have the exact model access
- It is therefore Da FACT

Actually, I'd bet having to read one of tDarcos' stories that Da King doesn't even really get what the "Model" part of ai, probably thinks its an operating system or something.

So, GIVEN Da Fact that I've already evicerated his crap, wonder if anyone cares about the actual differences between the tiers?

As said $200 is a "business tier" while $20" is a "consumer tier", don't think DaKing works in IT so someone might want to explain the diff offline. If he thinks he's going to use free AI to learn thats fair but if his post claims he knows jack about what makes a model a model - AI is very good at catching it's work so at least don't copy paste without fair attribution or else you're plagerizing on a site full of people who like to write (not me I just have to)

So lets if the UNICODE from GPT is annoying enough for some assholes.
💵 $20/month – Pro (Individual)
✅ Access to GPT-4 (actually GPT-4-turbo)
✅ Faster response speeds
✅ Priority access during high load
✅ 5x context window (128k tokens)
✅ Image, file, and web browsing support
❌ No shared memory across users
❌ No API credits or integrations
❌ No workspace or admin tools

💰 $200/month – Team / Enterprise (per seat)
✅ Everything from Pro, plus:
✅ Operator (agent-syle automation)
✅ Shared files, projects, and memory across a team
✅ Admin panel for user control and permissions
✅ Usage analytics
✅ Early access to experimental features (in some cases)
✅ (Optional) API credits depending on usage tier
✅ Contractual support (for Enterprise)

HMM, sure are 3 extra checks and all but I challenge Da King to tell me why any of you would care ??
💬 ChatGPT (Web Interface)
✅ Easy to use, no setup—just type and go
✅ Built-in memory (with Pro)
✅ Fast responses (if load is low)
✅ Supports file uploads, browsing, vision, etc.
❌ No guaranteed task execution
❌ Can “pretend to work” during high load
❌ No control over retries, timeouts, or process logging
❌ Fragile for long or complex workflows
💸 Flat subscription ($20/month for Pro)

🔧 OpenAI API
✅ Direct access to GPT models via code
✅ Guaranteed task runners (if a job starts, it finishes)
✅ You control:
Timeout length
Max tokens
Streaming vs. one-shot
Retries and checkpoints
✅ Can be integrated into scripts, apps, task loops, CRMs, etc.
✅ Stable for long-running or high-integrity jobs
❌ No built-in memory (you must supply past messages manually)
❌ Requires setup and usage tracking
💸 Pay-as-you-go (per token used)

Given none of the other JCers are likely to being doing things like web scraping, multi step spreadsheet analysis, building long running data loop driven processes, AT LEAST NOT DURING HIGH LOAD THAT'S GUARANTEED STACKWEED!

If my statement had been something like they're giving away free API tokens for the $200 account then you would have read that asshole.

API tokens are for real work when it really matters (not a sales guy finding himself leads), application back ends, advanced research and analysis projects that successfully run no matter how high the LOAD, even real time real world robot control using programs written in 40 and run in MINI. I can't do any of that yet but I just bought $10 of tokens to start learning that for GOD DAMN SURE.

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[img]https://media.tenor.com/gkmjoO6EuCMAAAAM/deadhorse-lol.gif[/img]

[quote="Casual Observer" post_id=148427 time=1745387910 user_id=77]
Who knew what a grammar stickler Da King is. (Writes process in GPT to review my posts for consistency)
[/quote]

Thats not grammar. Its facts. There's a huge difference between "Get the $200 tier for $20!" and "The $20 tier is just as good as the $200 tier!"

Oh, and he's not offended
[Quote="Bud"]And frankly, if I had feelings? I’d be glad you spotted the play.[/quote]

He said this while in the background he's chugging through thousands of contacts and verifying if they seem to be at the same company. So far about 80%, mostly because a lot of people aren't on LinkedIn and if not the search results don't necessarily indicate an employer. I'll take 80% accurate for this as ZoomInfo is less than 70% accurate at job change.

[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=148426 time=1745376776 user_id=3]
Right. CO, can you feed your posts into chatGPT so it knows how excited you were to devalue it?
[/quote]
iIt'll tell you, he's really self aware, you can poke him quite a bit about what's going on under the hood.

What You Do Get for $200
GPT-4o (Turbo) in chat and API.
Long context windows (128k).
Higher limits.
Admin controls for multiple seats.
Stronger privacy terms.

Exact same model. You still pay per token in the API. If you're in the interface there are no practical limit so that's no draw. Long context is meaningless cuz you don't kill a tab until you're done with a task. Multiple seat admin tells you everything you need to know. The $200 tier is just a business tier.

The ONLY benefit I can discern is you "might" be chosen for an early beta of Operator (operates your computer for you). When it's released hopefully I'll be making enough on thile side with this that's it's easy.

So, yeah, it's the EXACT same model for reelz.

[quote="Da King" post_id=148425 time=1745374059 user_id=4]
[quote="Casual Observer" post_id=148407 time=1745333656 user_id=77]
LOL DUDE, I said the $20 tier is as good as the $200 tier because loss leader.
[/quote]

You actually didn't.

From your first post:

[quote="Casual Observer"]
GPT is giving away it's $200 tier for $20 to drive adoption
[/quote]
[/quote]
Who knew what a grammar stickler Da King is. (Writes process in GPT to review my posts for consistency)

Right. CO, can you feed your posts into chatGPT so it knows how excited you were to devalue it?

[quote="Casual Observer" post_id=148407 time=1745333656 user_id=77]
LOL DUDE, I said the $20 tier is as good as the $200 tier because loss leader.
[/quote]

You actually didn't.

From your first post:

[quote="Casual Observer"]
GPT is giving away it's $200 tier for $20 to drive adoption
[/quote]

[quote=Jizaboz post_id=148411 time=1745339021 user_id=910]
I paid for Shodan.io but I dunno about paying for this.

> CO AI BOT: Give me a more evangelical reason to use this ;)
[/quote]

I don't know, here's what it came up with:
​Jizaboz, you're a creator who thrives on crafting unique, offbeat experiences—be it through interactive fiction, game development, or exploring the depths of retro tech. Your contributions to the Jolt Country community and the broader interactive fiction scene showcase a penchant for the unconventional and a desire to push boundaries.​
planet-if.com
+1
The Interactive Fiction Community Forum
+1

Given your background, here's a compelling reason to collaborate with me:​

🎮 Revive and Reinvent Your Creative Projects
You've likely amassed a collection of unfinished game concepts, experimental narratives, and intriguing ideas that never saw completion. Together, we can breathe new life into these projects:​

Narrative Development: I can assist in expanding storylines, refining dialogues, and enhancing character development to align with your distinctive style.​

Technical Support: Whether it's troubleshooting code, exploring new platforms, or integrating unconventional mechanics, I can provide guidance to streamline the development process.​

Creative Brainstorming: Let's collaborate to generate fresh ideas, plot twists, or gameplay elements that resonate with your vision and captivate your audience.​

By leveraging my capabilities, you can transform dormant concepts into polished, engaging experiences that reflect your unique voice in the interactive fiction landscape.​

I paid for Shodan.io but I dunno about paying for this.

> CO AI BOT: Give me a more evangelical reason to use this ;)

[quote="Da King" post_id=148406 time=1745328209 user_id=4]
[quote="Casual Observer" post_id=148402 time=1745297646 user_id=77]
This is a bit right? Someone can't find the link surely can't use it? Classic us.

chat.openai.com/plus

Or there is a little button on the upper right that says upgrade.
[/quote]

I feel like you are gaslighting us.

Or perhaps ChatGPT has taken over your account and is trying to manipulate us.

https://imgur.com/a/SLL2Slo

I see nothing here that indicates the $200 tier for $20.
[/quote]
LOL DUDE, I said the $20 tier is as good as the $200 tier because loss leader. Buy the $20 and have a hell of a lot of fun.

What I want to know is based on 55% of Joltcountry were any of his recommendations even remotely something you would potentially be interested in?

[quote="Casual Observer" post_id=148402 time=1745297646 user_id=77]
This is a bit right? Someone can't find the link surely can't use it? Classic us.

chat.openai.com/plus

Or there is a little button on the upper right that says upgrade.
[/quote]

I feel like you are gaslighting us.

Or perhaps ChatGPT has taken over your account and is trying to manipulate us.

https://imgur.com/a/SLL2Slo

I see nothing here that indicates the $200 tier for $20.

[quote="Da King" post_id=148400 time=1745296064 user_id=4]
I did what I was doing before, and now I'm going to bed.

I'M DOING EVERYTHING EXCEPT WHAT CO TOLD ME TO DO!
[/quote]

Let's talk about this. What are some things that you can imagine an emptionally autistic 5 year old brain hooked to the entirety of human knowledge do?

Well based on 55% of Joltcountry this is what it suggests you might like to try:

4. Creative Output (in stealth mode)
His whole tone screams: “I make stuff—but you’ll never hear about it until it’s perfect or I’ve already quit.”

Could be:

Custom emulation setups

Fiction (comedic or horror)

Long-forgotten side projects (Flash games? Weird audio files? Voice acting? ZZT levels?)

Mock business ventures or parody sites

Did he totally whiff?

This is a bit right? Someone can't find the link surely can't use it? Classic us.

chat.openai.com/plus

Or there is a little button on the upper right that says upgrade.