pinback wrote:The brutal, emotionally-honest truth. I mean every last word I say here, and the disgust you sense from me in my posts is probably still a fraction of the vitriol I feel in my heart.
Ben has a way of making everyone that associates with him feel like the guy who caught Marv Albert. What can you say to this other than, "Ah! Ah-... ha! ??"?
Ben will probably immediately say that it is not in jest, but that is because he is still "in character." So please, by all means, do not take it personally.
I hope I've convinced you what a fraudulent and ridiculous statement this is. Why would I waste time talking to you people if I was just making up bullcrap? I may not have much of a life, but I sure got better things to do with my time than that.
Here's what you don't get.
People like you and me can be the toughest of the tough and the baddest of the bad up on the Internet. We've been in a thousand "flame wars," we've ridiculed a hundred thousand people, we've ripped the shit out of those that would oppose us. We've done so anonymously, we've done so with handles, we've done so with our own real names. We've been both the uber-troll and the only guy with a shred of reasoning and compassion in a world that is slowly falling to the horrible, shambling undead. Our feelings aren't going to get hurt if someone zings us, we're not going to lose a second's sleep over what some tool says to us over the net.
Any role a forum of BBS needs, we can play it. We are the elite.
Well here's the fucking thing, and stop me if you've heard it before:
with great power comes great responsibility. Yes, Ben, you can rip apart almost every person you encounter on this BBS. You can roast them alive, skewer them, shame them... all of that stuff. For a place like this, with the unwritten contract that has developed, you have a responsibility
not to.
And you fucking know you do! That's the thing that gets me! You know all this!
Yes, you could survive anywhere. You could hop on the "Brawl Hall." You could hop on the former Old Man Murray Forums. You could start posting at Caltrops, Something Awful, alt.flame, the Portal of Evil, Fucked Company... anywhere. And you'd more or less have scoreboard and get over on everyone you encountered.
This is not such a place.
I made the decision a long time ago that I don't want to run a BBS where only the strong survive. Let's take somebody like the Milker: do you think he'd survive for ten posts on any of those places above? Shit, Lex made it to about thirty posts on Something Awful before he had turned an entire forum against him in the course of two posts.
I know that decision essentially makes "Jolt Country" a mediocre website. (And I know, just like you do, that someday, sooner or later, this place is going to be invaded by a bunch of kids from some site somewhere on the Internet where only the "strong" survive and where a miserable little clique is going to spam the BBS and so forth.) But Jesus Christ --
I already post on a dozen sites where only the strong survive. Those places already exist and are doing fine, and I can escape them whenever I want. Let's say that I suddenly decided to echo everything that you said, agree with it, and change the site so that it reflects that: first off, there's no longer a compelling reason for ANYONE to visit this place, and even moreso for me (if Random Poster X hops on here and gets the shit flamed out of him by the
"staff", then why stick around? Why fucking bother?).
So instead, we have JC the way it is now. I consider everyone currently participating in this website and forum to be a friend -- I want to get together with the bunch of you in Vegas, I'd want you all there in faux tuxedo t-shirts if I were to get married in Vegas -- fuck, man, turning this place into a carbon copy of a place I already go to doesn't help me at all.
So all the scathing, unfair content that I come up with ends up on Caltrops or wherever.
I FUCKING KNOW that such a decision makes this, the non-RFTK section of the site, soft as a baby's bottom. But I don't care. I really don't. I'm too old and have too much going on with work and the new game and everything else to run a guillotine BBS. I don't have the desire to run a BBS and have my friends hop on it and get slagged to death and see in-line porn outside designated areas and the rest of that. Yeah, in a perfect world, this place would be the cream of the crop and Violet and Worm and JB and everyone else on here that you say ought to kill themselves would tell you to stick it right up your ass, but that's not how those people are, and that's not how they are going to act, and I don't care. I like them all, obviously, anyway. I *prefer* them that way.
I understand where you're coming from, and I predict that you're going to go 180 degrees on me and I suspect that when you read this you're either going to stop posting or start posting like that emasculated "Happy Pinback" chap, and I
get that in doing so, you're attempting to appease the part of my brain that is in complete agreement with you.
However:
1) It's pretty fucking weak of you to go after everybody (aside from me) when they aren't playing on the same field as you & me and
2) Fuck you for holding
me to a higher standard than you hold yourself. You should be the most famous fucking person
on the Internet, seeing how you have more potential and larger storehouses of comedy than ANYONE else on it, and while I get that I am living a lie and the life of a failure and putting it all out there in front of everybody, you're not even trying any longer.
3) Do you have any goddamned idea how hard it is to be your friend?
Yes, Ben, when it comes right down to it, you are right. I hate to some degree the fact that this place is more like "Quarter to Three" than OMM.
But I'd hate even more not being able to fucking sleep at night.
[quote="pinback"]The brutal, emotionally-honest truth. I mean every last word I say here, and the disgust you sense from me in my posts is probably still a fraction of the vitriol I feel in my heart. [/quote]
Ben has a way of making everyone that associates with him feel like the guy who caught Marv Albert. What can you say to this other than, "Ah! Ah-... ha! ??"?
[quote][quote]Ben will probably immediately say that it is not in jest, but that is because he is still "in character." So please, by all means, do not take it personally. [/quote]
I hope I've convinced you what a fraudulent and ridiculous statement this is. Why would I waste time talking to you people if I was just making up bullcrap? I may not have much of a life, but I sure got better things to do with my time than that.[/quote]
Here's what you don't get.
People like you and me can be the toughest of the tough and the baddest of the bad up on the Internet. We've been in a thousand "flame wars," we've ridiculed a hundred thousand people, we've ripped the shit out of those that would oppose us. We've done so anonymously, we've done so with handles, we've done so with our own real names. We've been both the uber-troll and the only guy with a shred of reasoning and compassion in a world that is slowly falling to the horrible, shambling undead. Our feelings aren't going to get hurt if someone zings us, we're not going to lose a second's sleep over what some tool says to us over the net.
Any role a forum of BBS needs, we can play it. We are the elite.
Well here's the fucking thing, and stop me if you've heard it before: [i]with great power comes great responsibility.[/i] Yes, Ben, you can rip apart almost every person you encounter on this BBS. You can roast them alive, skewer them, shame them... all of that stuff. For a place like this, with the unwritten contract that has developed, you have a responsibility [i]not[/i] to.
And you fucking know you do! That's the thing that gets me! You know all this!
Yes, you could survive anywhere. You could hop on the "Brawl Hall." You could hop on the former Old Man Murray Forums. You could start posting at Caltrops, Something Awful, alt.flame, the Portal of Evil, Fucked Company... anywhere. And you'd more or less have scoreboard and get over on everyone you encountered.
This is not such a place.
I made the decision a long time ago that I don't want to run a BBS where only the strong survive. Let's take somebody like the Milker: do you think he'd survive for ten posts on any of those places above? Shit, Lex made it to about thirty posts on Something Awful before he had turned an entire forum against him in the course of two posts.
I know that decision essentially makes "Jolt Country" a mediocre website. (And I know, just like you do, that someday, sooner or later, this place is going to be invaded by a bunch of kids from some site somewhere on the Internet where only the "strong" survive and where a miserable little clique is going to spam the BBS and so forth.) But Jesus Christ -- [i]I already post[/i] on a dozen sites where only the strong survive. Those places already exist and are doing fine, and I can escape them whenever I want. Let's say that I suddenly decided to echo everything that you said, agree with it, and change the site so that it reflects that: first off, there's no longer a compelling reason for ANYONE to visit this place, and even moreso for me (if Random Poster X hops on here and gets the shit flamed out of him by the [i]"staff"[/i], then why stick around? Why fucking bother?).
So instead, we have JC the way it is now. I consider everyone currently participating in this website and forum to be a friend -- I want to get together with the bunch of you in Vegas, I'd want you all there in faux tuxedo t-shirts if I were to get married in Vegas -- fuck, man, turning this place into a carbon copy of a place I already go to doesn't help me at all.
So all the scathing, unfair content that I come up with ends up on Caltrops or wherever.
I FUCKING KNOW that such a decision makes this, the non-RFTK section of the site, soft as a baby's bottom. But I don't care. I really don't. I'm too old and have too much going on with work and the new game and everything else to run a guillotine BBS. I don't have the desire to run a BBS and have my friends hop on it and get slagged to death and see in-line porn outside designated areas and the rest of that. Yeah, in a perfect world, this place would be the cream of the crop and Violet and Worm and JB and everyone else on here that you say ought to kill themselves would tell you to stick it right up your ass, but that's not how those people are, and that's not how they are going to act, and I don't care. I like them all, obviously, anyway. I *prefer* them that way.
I understand where you're coming from, and I predict that you're going to go 180 degrees on me and I suspect that when you read this you're either going to stop posting or start posting like that emasculated "Happy Pinback" chap, and I [i]get[/i] that in doing so, you're attempting to appease the part of my brain that is in complete agreement with you.
However:
1) It's pretty fucking weak of you to go after everybody (aside from me) when they aren't playing on the same field as you & me and
2) Fuck you for holding [i]me[/i] to a higher standard than you hold yourself. You should be the most famous fucking person [b]on[/b] the Internet, seeing how you have more potential and larger storehouses of comedy than ANYONE else on it, and while I get that I am living a lie and the life of a failure and putting it all out there in front of everybody, you're not even trying any longer.
3) Do you have any goddamned idea how hard it is to be your friend?
Yes, Ben, when it comes right down to it, you are right. I hate to some degree the fact that this place is more like "Quarter to Three" than OMM.
But I'd hate even more not being able to fucking sleep at night.