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Re: Help me Robb Sherwin, you're my only hope!

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Thu May 13, 2021 2:04 pm

Also, Lex is not wrong for disliking Revenger and all of his points were valid.

Re: Help me Robb Sherwin, you're my only hope!

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Thu May 13, 2021 2:04 pm

This got referenced by a piece of spam I got today. I assume it was automated spam. If not, sorry Jesse:
Hello Administrator,

The following is an e-mail sent to you through the administration contact
page on "Jolt Country".

The message was sent from a guest who specified the following contact
information:
Name: Jesse Davidson
E-mail address: jdavidson@madberry.com
IP Address: 130.105.211.218


Message sent to you follows
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Good morning,

I noticed that you have a broken link to a website called
BaseballHallOfFame.org. That site was first published way back in 1998 but
unfortunately, it is no longer a working website.

You link to BaseballHallOfFame on this page:
viewtopic.php?t=105&start=20

We recently published an article that explains what happened to the site.
I think it's an interesting story, and it could be useful to your readers.

Here's the article if you want to take a look:
https://baseballscouter.com/what-happen ... ffame-org/

Would you consider swapping out the broken link for our article?

Cheers,
Jesse
I would swap out the broken links but the admin has post editing turned off.

Also that link gives this as the reason:
What Then Happened To BaseballHallOfFame.org?

After its launch in 1998, BaseballHallOfFame.org continued to be active until 2010. The Hall of Fame then launched a shorter version of the site to which it redirected visitors until 2014 when the redirect was removed.
Oh

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Mon Jul 08, 2002 8:31 pm

bruce wrote:
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:Joe Jackson helped throw the World Series in the 1910s (I forget the exact year). He and seven (IIRC) other members of the Chicago White Sox were banned from the game. So, of course, when having him do his ad he says, "Throw me another Coors."
1919, of course.

Young'uns these days.

Bet you don't even know who Mel Ott was, let alone how many home runs he hit.

Adam
Ott? Sure. One of about a THOUSAND New YorkGiants in the Hall of Fame (due to rampant east-coast bias. And I can say that without east-coast anti-bias because I grew up on the east coast). I mean, geez --

http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/hofer ... giants.htm

I don't know how many home runs he has, though. Google and his official website indicate that he hit 511, which means that he may possibly be one of the relatively few New York Giants who actually deserve to be within sniffing distance of the HoF.

Waitasec. He was done playing by 1951 and dead by 1958. Unless the picture of you up on the IF Hall of Shame is like thirty years old, there's a very good chance that he was officially "before your time."

To paraphrase the manager in Major League, I think someone's been having some fun with me.

by bruce » Mon Jul 08, 2002 6:30 pm

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:Joe Jackson helped throw the World Series in the 1910s (I forget the exact year). He and seven (IIRC) other members of the Chicago White Sox were banned from the game. So, of course, when having him do his ad he says, "Throw me another Coors."
1919, of course.

Young'uns these days.

Bet you don't even know who Mel Ott was, let alone how many home runs he hit.

Adam

by Lex » Mon Jul 01, 2002 12:45 pm

Okay, okay. And that was pretty funny. Also: Didn't this thing have multiple endings?

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Mon Jul 01, 2002 1:55 am

Your points are well taken. Well, except for #7 there, Adolph. In the game's defense, though, I would only say that:
There is no apparent reason to solve the only "puzzle", save for the fact it is an adventure game and you simply must do whatever you find written on a small piece of paper.
Yeah, but Jalen (the main character) had his life plotted out and was rejected some easy living simply due to the close-mindedness of the professors before him, and he had a way to get back at them through a method that they essentially said isn't worthy of study. Plus, with the game being called "Revenger" and all, there should be some revenge. Otherwise it would have gone under the other title I considered, which was "Not American McGee's Super Action Spirit Farmer."

by Lex » Sun Jun 30, 2002 12:03 pm

Aha! It's SHIT!

1. The character's names are too long and complicated to make interaction with them easy and/or appealing.

2. There is no apparent reason to solve the only "puzzle", save for the fact it is an adventure game and you simply must do whatever you find written on a small piece of paper.

3. There was only one female in the game (did you really write this, Robb?).

4. Characters don't seem to mind at all when you beat the shit out of one of their number.

5. A simple spelling error made me screach at the parser while attempting to emulate it. ("Scmidt")

6. I ate the cake. The candle went out. I now had the candle and what I can only assume to be a partially-digested slice of cake in my inventory.

7. I'm pretty sure Lee is a Jew.

As part of a larger game, it could've been forgiveable. But no, it was horrible. Simply horrible. Thankfully, the rest of your work pretty much rocks.

by Lex » Sun Jun 30, 2002 3:49 am

I'm going to find it, and play it again.
And then I'm going to rant!

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Sat Jun 29, 2002 10:58 pm

Dunno for Lex, but as far as my mom is concerned, she didn't like Batboy on a sweatshirt. Admittedly, my mother has not played the actual game itself.

by Roody_Yogurt » Sat Jun 29, 2002 10:39 pm

What was wrong with Revenger, other than the chance of wacky guess-the-verb antics?

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Sat Jun 29, 2002 2:35 pm

Lex wrote:Hey - I missed one. I think I told you how much a truly, truly hate Revenger, right? Aside from that, I'm a big fan of all your work. It just rubbed me the wrong way, don't know why. Also: IT WAS FUNNEY COS HE WAS A CHICKEN AND HE CROSSED THE ROAD! HAHAHAH¬¬!¬£"¬%!11
Look asscrack, that was the CHICKEN COMP. A COMPETITION ABOUT CHICKENS. Specifically answering the question WHY. When you take first prize in the RIGHT BASTARD competition coming up shortly by sleeping with the wife of the competition organizer and doing burnouts on his lawn then you'll know what I am talking about.

Also, Mom hates Revenger, so there is a line. Please go to the end of the line. Leave my mother alone, though. RIGHT BASTARD!

by Lex » Sat Jun 29, 2002 6:32 am

Wow, I really am being a total prick in this thread. Sorry. I'll probably stop now.

by Lex » Sat Jun 29, 2002 6:25 am

Hey - I missed one. I think I told you how much a truly, truly hate Revenger, right? Aside from that, I'm a big fan of all your work. It just rubbed me the wrong way, don't know why. Also: IT WAS FUNNEY COS HE WAS A CHICKEN AND HE CROSSED THE ROAD! HAHAHAH¬¬!¬£"¬%!11

by Lex » Sat Jun 29, 2002 6:22 am

Okay, fine. I'll calm down in that respect.*



*Provided there are no more n!33rs around.

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Tue Jun 25, 2002 9:28 pm

Lex wrote:You are a very sick man. I didn't like that puzzle. In fact, I think it was downright terrible, and not at all Sherwinian. Why would 'venger give away the object he uses as a weapon throughout the game? And how do we get the pipe back to breath through the cage (This I assume you have thought through).
The use of those scenes probably, in retrospect, should have been deleted from the game. In all honesty, they were added in the last week because I thought the game would be way too short otherwise. Great decision, eh? I mean, sure, I wanted to have our hero's father make an appearance and all, but still.

You'd get your pipe back because it's okay to trust me. I don't make games good enough to intentionally piss anybody off and get away with it.

Oh well, it could be worse. He might, y'know, be gay or something.
I don't think enough people hang out here to take offense at your transparent trolling. You'd probably have better luck at the Straight Dope forum.

by Lex » Sat Jun 22, 2002 4:13 am

You are a very sick man. I didn't like that puzzle. In fact, I think it was downright terrible, and not at all Sherwinian. Why would 'venger give away the object he uses as a weapon throughout the game? And how do we get the pipe back to breath through the cage (This I assume you have thought through).
Oh well, it could be worse. He might, y'know, be gay or something.

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Thu Jun 20, 2002 10:44 am

(Spoilers for A Crimson Spring below.)


The dorm. You mean the Succubus one or the Anthraxia one? I presume the Succubus (Jenn) one. You just need to kiss her. I remember that it takes place like ten years before the present time, but she sees you as her age then so there's no pedophilia involved.

Or, wait, do you mean the AIDS Archer scene? Dammit. I can't recall which one is in the dorm. I am going to need to look at the source.

(downloads source)

Hey, I didn't find the Archer's scene yet. But I did find this:
"'Career .356 batting average. Over 1,700 hits. And hit over .300 in the Championship. Oh, Did I mention? He also threw the World Series.

Shoeless Joe Jackson for Original Coors."

"Hey. Throw me another Coors. And Original Coors."
I should explain that, seeing how you live in a foreign country (a BETTER country than mine, seeing how they never ran Coors ads like that in yours).

Coors, for a while, had these terrible ads where they would take guys like Dan Patrick (an anchor for the show "Sportscenter") or Ahmad Rashad (who used to be a football player, but now is in the media and just gobbles the pole of other current athletes) and have them talk about some "mystery" player, usually one who isn't still playing. In any of the four major sports. They'd do one on baseball player Willie Mays, who played centerfield, and then Willie would say, "Hey, I'm going to catch me a Coors!!! LOL!" or something like that. So my brother Mike and I were talking about ones they could do to make the concept not one that makes people want to rip their eyeballs out from their heads, and I came up with the Shoeless Joe Jackson one. Joe Jackson helped throw the World Series in the 1910s (I forget the exact year). He and seven (IIRC) other members of the Chicago White Sox were banned from the game. So, of course, when having him do his ad he says, "Throw me another Coors."

Ah! Ah! Ah! But, at any rate.


For the Archer's scene you need to give him something to pump away with on his date. A longish, cylinder-type object, if you know what I mean. Essentially, you have to give him your lead pipe, so he uses that rather than his own personal "equipment," so that he does not contract any diseases.

The "providing NPCs with makeshift dildos" school of puzzle management has often been overlooked in IF, but hopefully as more people play ACS that kind of thing will really take off, and push aside such staples as "key-and-door" or "kill the troll."

by Lex » Tue Jun 18, 2002 2:51 pm

No, I'll do it. I have the power. Fueled by the most expensive Wheatabix in the world. But seriously, what the fuck am I supposed to do in the dorm, when Wraith is testing us*? I tried a lot, I'm sure. Destinct lack of anything "Real" to interact with, and I can't reason with him.

And I actually meant to take the piss out of these religious people (and Catholics) who insist that anyone with AIDS is evil. Please don't hate me. But never doubt again that I am a fan. You're a friend first, but it got that way because I love your work and you are a brilliant writer, and I respect that.

*This proves that he was a cool character- note how I accept him as my partner in this game.

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Tue Jun 18, 2002 11:57 am

What the?! The AIDS Archer didn't contract that disease through homosexual relations, and even if he did there was no sentiment on my part that he contracted a "gay" disease. What the hell are you libelling me for, Gray? I'll see you in court for this! I mean, hell!

(I was just trying to depict someone who is quite outmatched when I put him in the game. Like, I'm sure that Hydro-Man is a fierce and fearsome villain to most regular, everyday people. But when he encounters the Human Torch, the Torch just evaporates him. You may think that a guy slinging AIDS-tipped arrows would be pretty bad-ass, but when he is fighting one guy who cannot get sick and another whose skin cannot be broken all of a sudden he becomes little more than a simpering clown shoe.)

You should finish FOD because the ending is one of the very few paragraphs that I have written in my life that I think came out right and that I am truly happy with. I can give you a level warp to the last chapter if you like.

by Lex » Tue Jun 18, 2002 11:31 am

Saied: Didn't think I'd bring this up, did you? Oh sorry, didn't think I'd "Pump it Up"? Well, you poor fool, I did, and with both endings. Take that!

Chicks Dig Jerks: Quite simply, the best game I have ever played, next to Lula: The Sexy Empire. It made me want to go the way I am in life; the drive to bring it to the silver screen, atleast, a screen, is what made me take the course I'm about to start. That and a desire to write and direct a mini-series based on Asimov's robot stories. And to bring to film Harry Harrison's "Deathworld" books. Okay, so CDJ was the deciding factor.

A Crimson Spring: A nice concept from someone who wanted to write fanfiction but knew he'd never get permission. Nice to see a childhood character come to life in a video game, though. First time you really did something you could be proud of in Hugo, so it's probably a landmark. A sweet idea, except for the fucking breathing thing. You think I didn't do that? I was informed politley -- repeatedly -- that a membrain kept stopping it. Maybe I didn't use Push or something, cos it sure as hell took a lot of effort to find the right statement just to make him try. Also couldn't save Mr. AIDS; probably because you're a sick, sick fuck and think he is Satan's Spawn for contracting the Gay Disease. But I could be mistaken about that.

No Time To Squeal: Very cool, could certainly have been brilliant if there'd been time to work on it til it felt absolutley perfect. Didn't understand the last puzzle or how it functioned. Maybe that's because I can play chess or some shit. But yeah, that was a very cool game.

Fallacy of Dawn: So very cool. Just never got round to playing it through in it's completed form; very fluid, very RPG-like, very cool. A sleek and sexy world with truly badass and believable characters. Very nice.
Ghost in the Mall: Will be very cool because it will say STARRING ALEX GRAY AS THAT EXCEPTIONALY COOL KILT-WEARING SLAYER & SEE THAT CHICK YOU WERE FANTASIZING ABOUT? WELL THAT'S HIS GIRLFRIEND IN REAL LIFE! on the front cover. This will also be the slogan. When Lynch & Romero snap up the rights in a few years he will cast Samuel L. Jackson as Leatherclad Funkster & the Oldskool Winona in Yenna's role. From then on Jackson will look up to me like a father figure & we will rule Hollywood with an iron fist, with him as my evil heir and right-hand-man. We will be INVINCIBLE!

Battle Field Alien Blast of Fire XP Alpha 2024: Will probably be very cool when we get around to it, may also be the first game to make full use of Hugo's AVI capabilities.

And there it is, straight from the chinchilla's mouth!

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