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WTF is up with animation these days?

Post by Casual Observer » Mon May 28, 2018 7:11 pm

For awhile I've been feeling sorry for kids growing up after we did because it seems like kid cartoons have gone to shit after the 80's. Seems like nothing but stupid concepts and silly characters. Nothing of the quality of Transformers, Gi-Joe, He-man, Voltron, or Thundercats. But now they're doing re-boots of those and fucking them up too. The Netflix Voltron was ok: similar animation but just not the same magic (or maybe I've changed too).

But the new Thundercats looks to be just a travesty. What the fuck is up with this animation style? You can't even tell that they are human felines. Where's the muscle tone? Why call something Thundercats when it's drawn like Dora the explorer or spongebob? Feeling sorry for kids today, that's all.

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Post by Flack » Mon May 28, 2018 8:42 pm

The worse part is, this is what kids want and like. Ask 'Vark or ICJ -- I've got more 80s cartoons stored on my home media server than most television stations ever saw... and I still can't get my kids to watch them. Put on Dungeons and Dragons and they'll disappear quicker than Dungeon Master. Put on He-Man or G.I. Joe and they'll be out of the room before the first commercial break, and anything that's remotely slow moving like Scooby Doo will have them snoring before the Mystery Machine stops for the night. Then you flip channels and the minute you cross Doc McStuffins they beg you to stop. It's terrible.
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Post by pinback » Tue May 29, 2018 5:19 am

The 80s cartoons you all remember so fondly were awful, and you are just falling into a nostalgia trap. Fucking He-Man? Terrible. I remember it because I knew when it came on, it was time to go to school, and I was thankful, because that meant I didn't have to watch fuckin He-Man.

Any random show on Cartoon Network (the kid version, not Adult Swim) is smarter, funnier, and ten times more enjoyable than any of the terrible old cartoons you have listed here.

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Post by Casual Observer » Tue May 29, 2018 10:19 am

pinback wrote:
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The 80s cartoons you all remember so fondly were awful, and you are just falling into a nostalgia trap. Fucking He-Man? Terrible. I remember it because I knew when it came on, it was time to go to school, and I was thankful, because that meant I didn't have to watch fuckin He-Man.

Any random show on Cartoon Network (the kid version, not Adult Swim) is smarter, funnier, and ten times more enjoyable than any of the terrible old cartoons you have listed here.

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Post by Jizaboz » Tue May 29, 2018 10:24 am

Whatever pinback.

He-Man was a great show, but I think you had to have imagination to enjoy it to the fullest with the toys and all. I even liked She-ra. Where I drew the line was Bravestar. That show was just plain dumb. I tried watching that reboot of He-Man and as soon as I heard Skeletor's lame voice I turned it off. Snorks were dumb. I remember being mad as a kid that it was never on when I was watching TV and then when I finally caught it I was like "Wow, this really sucks." Some G.I. Joe episodes were good.. some were boring. I never missed Dungeons N Dragons. I really loved that show.

I would say MOST modern cartoons are crap. Spongebob is pretty funny. That CGI Pac-Man thing that comes on can be kind of amusing.

This really is a head-scratcher for me because as a kid I loved cartoons that were made before I was even born, even if they were black & white.

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Post by AArdvark » Tue May 29, 2018 3:17 pm

Well, I'm gonna show my age here (and IQ) because I used to watch Hong Kong Phooey and Jabberjaw. I never knew at that age they were just cartoon versions of adult shows.

I could not tell you what adult show Thundarr the barbarian was based on.

P.S. Star Blazers was pretty cool.

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Post by Flack » Tue May 29, 2018 6:08 pm

I'm pretty sure Thundarr was D&D mixed with Star Wars.
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Post by Jizaboz » Thu May 31, 2018 6:42 am

Yeah Thundarr was kind of odd. I kind of viewed it as the "Gobots" version of He-Man.

Never watched Star Blazers that I remember (Space Battleship Yamato) but I did really enjoy Tranzor Z (Mazinger Z) and Voltron.

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Post by The Happiness Engine » Thu May 31, 2018 2:39 pm

"My 8 year old kids have been born into a different culture than 8 year old me and hence like different childish amusements!" HOLY FUCK SON CALL PRESIDENT NINJA.

Seriously, as someone who watched 80s cartoons they all suck. Even the 90s ones suck.

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Post by pinback » Thu May 31, 2018 2:51 pm

Prepare to be "whatevered", THE. Happens to the best of us.
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Post by Flack » Thu May 31, 2018 4:51 pm

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Post by Tdarcos » Thu May 31, 2018 5:51 pm

In Robert A. Heinlein's "To Sail Beyond the Sunset," a young man asks his mother, "How come the [video telephones] here in Kansas City are all [standard definition]? The ones in Dallas are all [4K]." His mother replies, "Donald, whenever you ask a question beginning with 'Why do they?' or 'Why don't they?' the answer is almost always 'money'."

The animation is made simpler and the action faster because it's cheaper to do it that way, the kids like the pacing better, which turns into higher ratings.

Soft drinks up until the mid-1980s used sugar until the manufacturers found high fructose corn syrup was cheaper, sweeter, and most customers either didn't notice or liked it better.

Since the new format produces a cheaper product and more customers - 4-year-olds - like it, they're just going where the money is.
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Post by RealNC » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:21 am

I only ever liked Looney Tunes. And anime, because tits.

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Post by Ice Cream Jonsey » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:45 am

pinback wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 5:19 am
Any random show on Cartoon Network (the kid version, not Adult Swim) is smarter, funnier, and ten times more enjoyable than any of the terrible old cartoons you have listed here.
Kids aren't watching Space Ghost or Aqua Teen Hunger Force though. Can't we just admit as a community that cartoons go in this kind of pecking order:

1) Modern ones made within the last 15 years for adults
2) 80s cartoons
3) 70s cartoons
4) Today's garbage and nonsense
5) Pixar


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Post by pinback » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:55 am

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:45 am
pinback wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 5:19 am
Any random show on Cartoon Network (the kid version, not Adult Swim) is smarter, funnier, and ten times more enjoyable than any of the terrible old cartoons you have listed here.
Kids aren't watching Space Ghost or Aqua Teen Hunger Force though. Can't we just admit as a community that cartoons go in this kind of pecking order:
Both of the shows you mentioned are Adult Swim shows, which I specifically excluded in the exact sentence you just replied to.

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Post by AArdvark » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:56 pm

I gotta put Looney Tunes up there in teh number one slot. They've won Oscars and everything.

Everything else is just television stuff.

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Post by Ice Cream Jonsey » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:11 am

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Post by Jizaboz » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:23 am

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Re: WTF is up with animation these days?

Post by RealNC » Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:19 am

Does anyone here have MMA training?

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Post by Flack » Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:50 pm

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