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daemon oddness

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:34 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
I have a weird situation I will write out when I get back:

I have a file called daemons.hug, it contains daemons for Cyberganked. There are 27 daemons in it, far less than Cryptozookeeper.

If I add another daemon to this file, Cyberganked crashes when run. Not during compile, it's a run time error.

As an experiment, I added a definition of a fuse before the last daemon that I added. It no longer crashes at run time. If I take that out it does.

What. The. F.

Re: daemon oddness

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:41 pm
by pinback
I'm not going to answer this until you tell us all how you pronounce "daemon" out loud.

Re: daemon oddness

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:34 pm
by RealNC
Does the interpreter crash? Both the Kent's as well as Hugor? Or is some sort of in-engine runtime error? If it's the former, you can send me a hex file that causes this and I can see if it's something I can fix.

Re: daemon oddness

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:08 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
It crashes on both Kent's and Hugor - but I walked back to a few commits ago and added two daemons and it was fine. So it is something I recently added with the alcohol code that is screwing things up. It's weird because the debugger also didn't give me great information. I still have work to do before giving up.

Re: daemon oddness

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:09 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
pinback wrote: Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:41 pm I'm not going to answer this until you tell us all how you pronounce "daemon" out loud.
I've never pronounced it out loud. I suppose I would adopt a rich Jamaican accent for that word though?

Re: daemon oddness

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:22 am
by pinback
Is it "day-mon" or "dee-mon"? (The Jamaican accent is assumed.)

Re: daemon oddness

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:26 am
by Billy Mays
pinback wrote: Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:22 am Is it "day-mon" or "dee-mon"? (The Jamaican accent is assumed.)
It's actually just a spelling variant of "demon" and is pronounced the exact same way:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dic ... ish/daemon


phonetically: /ˈdēmən/

Re: daemon oddness

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:12 am
by pinback
I'm not asking how it should be pronounced. I was asking how ICJ would pronounce it.

Re: daemon oddness

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:02 pm
by Jizaboz
Daemon is the southern word for demon.

Re: daemon oddness

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:21 pm
by Flack
Rhymes with Ænima.

(Learn to swim.)

Re: daemon oddness

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:52 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
I don't know how else to explain it - having never heard the word said out loud in this context, I would have no pronunciation for it.

It's like asking how I would say, "Zbeqbzx."

Re: daemon oddness

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:47 am
by pinback
How could you have worked in the IT field for decades and never heard someone say "daemon".

Re: daemon oddness

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:18 am
by Billy Mays
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote: Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:52 pmIt's like asking how I would say, "Zbeqbzx."
It would only be like that if I also provided the Cambridge dictionary's UK and US pronunciations of the word along with its phonetic spelling, otherwise it would be nothing like the example you provided.

Re: daemon oddness

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:22 am
by Flack
People still argue about the pronunciation of GIF, and the proper way to pronounce NES is back in the news this month. We still haven't mastered three-letter words. We're never going to get to six-letter ones like daemon, and zbeqbzx is right out.

Re: daemon oddness

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:43 am
by Jizaboz
Flack wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:22 am People still argue about the pronunciation of GIF, and the proper way to pronounce NES is back in the news this month. We still haven't mastered three-letter words. We're never going to get to six-letter ones like daemon, and zbeqbzx is right out.
Yeah this boggles the mind. The first word of GIF is "Graphics" so it doesn't make any sense to me to pronounce the G like Jeffery. Are people really saying N.E.S. like "Ness"?

Re: daemon oddness

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:05 pm
by Tdarcos
pinback wrote: Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:41 pm I'm not going to answer this until you tell us all how you pronounce "daemon" out loud.
Day-ee-mohn. Day-ee-mohn. Day-ee-mohn come and he won' go home.

Re: daemon oddness

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:11 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Fine. day-mon, emphasis on the first syllable. That is what I would say.

Re: daemon oddness

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:11 pm
by pinback
Thanks. Now, back to the topic!

What was the topic?

Re: daemon oddness

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:29 pm
by Ice Cream Jonsey
Well how do you pronounce it, dickcheese?

Re: daemon oddness

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:37 am
by pinback
It's pronounced "demon", like "demon", but everyone pronounces it "daymon", which bugs the SHIT outta me. But you get a pass, because you are a dear, cherished friend.