Speech to text on an android tablet

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Speech to text on an android tablet

Post by Tdarcos » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:44 pm

Hey this is interesting! This Android on-screen keyboard - Search Anysoft keyboard if you're interested - has a push on microphone button. Google picks up what I'm saying and translates it into text so I can talk and read things in to the tablet where it will type them. I have used it to construct this article.

It has a few problems though. Its speech recognition is slow. Since this tablet is only a about 1.8 gigahertz it's understandable. (I have to remember if I have an abbreviation like GHz I have to spell it out.) But it is smart enough to know when I say the word "period" (which I spelled out to be able to insert it in this sentence) that I want the punctuation not the word. Also works for hyphen (you get to choose whether you want the symbol or the word) but not for semicolon. Not too shabby.

In fact when saying a sentence it knows enough to capitalize the first letter. However that may be the keyboard capitalizing it rather than Google. Typing one now - or rather speaking one now - I found out that the keyboard is in fact making the capitalization. So it's actually not too bad since other than minor corrections like some punctuation it won't insert I've been able to do almost all of this article by voice. When it works right it's fairly nice.

However, it can be very irritating when it throws away everything you just said. I had to break the previous sentence three times to get it to take it. This can be frustrating when you can see on screen it's got it right but it re-examines it then discards it. Like it's not sure if what it has done is correct but won't allow me to tell it "yes it is."

I'm watching it now as it translates what I spoke into text. If it doesn't "bail out" and cancel the sentence because it's afraid it misunderstood, it will then offer me a selection of what it thinks I said along with alternatives to use in case it is incorrect. Sometimes it only gives one selection because it knows it's gotten it absolutely correct.

There are a few things I wish it would do. One is that while it is showing me what it thinks I said that it shows the words on the screen but there's nothing you can do with them. If it isn't quite sure of what you said, it will often delete the whole thing and cancel the request (what I referred to earlier as "bail out."). What would be nice is, if while sassembling the sentence, you saw that it's right, it would let you touch it to inform it that, yes, that is correct, it would be much more useful. But considering that it's free it's not too bad at all.

I just purchased a copy of Dragon Naturally Speaking and a microphone for my PC. The software wasn't terribly expensive - under $10, probably one of those OEM packages or something - all I got was the disc but it was a legitimate disc it wasn't a bootleg copy. I'm still waiting on the microphone/headset, which cost less than $3 but is shipped all the way from China and takes about three to five weeks. (Yes, I know, I'm a cheap son of a bitch. I have to be. I can't very well afford 15 or 20 dollars for a microphone when I only have $40 a month after they take almost all my money.) IThe microphone/headset should be here in a few days. Once I get it, I can send see which works better. I have a headset with microphone for the Android but it won't work on the PC. (Since it's a combined unit with a single plug you can't use it on a PC.)

I'm going to be doing a lot of writing and since my left hand is crippled with Dupychen's syndrome I can no longer touch type. Being able to have the computer (tablet) typing what I speak will certainly help a lot. I have several books I want to finish and then dump upon err I mean unleash or maybe expose to the public.

Wow, this article is a lot longer than I expected it to be. Being able to speak what I want to say, instead of having to type it, has really unleashed my verbal diarrhea, err I mean my innate creativity. Two things I have to note about this system:(1) it works better on shorter sentences. (2) I wish it supported continuous speech translation.

Again, the slowness is an issue. Having to push the button, wait for Google to respond, speak what I have to say, wait for it to translate my words, then select the correct translation, probably takes longer than it would for me to type what I wanted to say in the first place. But it is a hell of a lot easier.

Another problem it has like the other things I've noticed is its prudishness. When I said earlier, that I was a cheap son of a b****, what you see here is exactly what Google typed in. Apparently, hell, bastard, and goddamn (I might have left off the trailing n) are okay, but s***, b****, f*** , f***** , m***********, c********* , a****** , c*** are not. Fuck! This asshole bitch of a motherfucking cocksucker acts like a cunt, and just won't let any shit get past the fucker.

George Carlin would not appreciate this expurgation.
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Re: Speech to text on an android tablet

Post by Flack » Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:10 pm

That's wonderful, Commander. I expect a book a day, just as fast as you can come up with them!

If Dragon Naturally doesn't work out, I believe Cortana's speech-to-text is built into Windows 10 and is free.
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Re: Speech to text on an android tablet

Post by AArdvark » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:37 pm

Re: verbal diarrhea. Did they move you into a private room?

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Re: Speech to text on an android tablet

Post by Tdarcos » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:45 pm

Flack wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:10 pm
That's wonderful, Commander. I expect a book a day, just as fast as you can come up with them!
I hope you're kidding, that's a little on the fast side. My first book, In the Matter of: The Gatekeeper: The Gate Contracts, is 419 pages, and took about 90 days to write because I worked on it full time, every day.

My second book, In the Matter of: Instrument of God which at 796 pages I now realize suffers from "Second System Syndrome,"[*] took (I am somewhat ashamed to admit it) eight years! (2002-2010) (You can also see that I've basically let it sit around an additional nine years.) Of course, I was working full time and busy a lot, and so the book got done when I set aside time to work on it, which wasn't often enough. I currently have five other books in various stages of completion,. provided I can retrieve them off my NAS. I had two backups in addition to the NAS but, Alas, when I got sick virtually everything else ended up getting discarded. I really wish my illness had allowed me more time to get my things in order.
Flack wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:10 pm
If Dragon Naturally doesn't work out, I believe Cortana's speech-to-text is built into Windows 10 and is free.
I thought Cortana was only a software agent like Amazon's Alexa. My computer has Windows 10 professional. Do you know if Cortana offers continuous translation? It's a shame I lost the Acer Inspire, it had a speech to text program built in too.

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[*] "Second Sytem Syndrome" is a term coined by Gerald Weinberg for his excellent book The Psychology of Computer Programming. It was one of the assigned textbooks for a college programming class, and after I read it I understood why. You have "Second System Syndrome," when after you've developed and implemented one computer system or application, you think about all the things you didn't accomplish in the first, and you eventually decide to "include the kitchen sink" in the second system you work on. This is why applications where the majority of people on that job are on their second major system, they tend to become excessively bloated with features and too large, a problem he refers to as "featuritis."

After I wrote the second book I realized I'd done the same thing programmers do with their 2nd computer system. I'd loaded the book with everything, in fact, it was so large it locked up Word Perfect. I don't know how I saved the final edit, but any attempt to re-load it into Word Perfect 8 for Windows or (apparently) any later version does not cause the program to crash, it causes it to hang.

By the way, I am not a "word processor bigot" or elitist or snob. Its just that I have found Word Perfect allows me to get what I need to do in a written document done much easier than either Microsoft Word or its clone, Apache Open Office.Org / Libre Office. And yes, I've used all of them, in fact I have OOO installed (I was using it to write my other books, because to release books to Kindle the tools are designed to accept MS Word .doc files, which OOO can emulate) and I might even have the actal MS Word (probably pre-installed) on it too.
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Re: Speech to text on an android tablet

Post by Tdarcos » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:48 pm

AArdvark wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:37 pm
Re: verbal diarrhea. Did they move you into a private room?
No, actually they moved me from a private room to a shared one.
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Re: Speech to text on an android tablet

Post by AArdvark » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:03 pm

I prefer the Windows 98 edition of Wordpad. Just plain 'ol text editing.

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Re: Speech to text on an android tablet

Post by pinback » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:59 pm

Tdarcos wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:48 pm
AArdvark wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:37 pm
Re: verbal diarrhea. Did they move you into a private room?
No, actually they moved me from a private room to a shared one.
Can we get the other guy on the show?
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Re: Speech to text on an android tablet

Post by Flack » Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:44 am

Tdarcos wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:45 pm
I thought Cortana was only a software agent like Amazon's Alexa. My computer has Windows 10 professional. Do you know if Cortana offers continuous translation? It's a shame I lost the Acer Inspire, it had a speech to text program built in too.
I found these steps online. I don't have a microphone here at work this morning or I would try it out. Hopefully you can give us a report as to how it works!

01. Open Speech Recognition by clicking the Start button The Start button, clicking All Programs, clicking Accessories, clicking Ease of Access, and then clicking Windows Speech Recognition.
02. Say "start listening" or click the Microphone button to start the listening mode.
03. Open the program you want to use or select the text box you want to dictate text into.
04. Say the text that you want dictate.

Regarding step 1, you can just press the Windows key on your keyboard and type "speech recognition" to jump to the correct spot in control panel. I'm sure you could make a shortcut to that on your desktop for quicker access in the future.

If it's not enabled, here are some instructions on how to enable it and some shortcuts that work with it.

https://www.techrepublic.com/article/ho ... indows-10/
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Re: Speech to text on an android tablet

Post by Tdarcos » Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:02 pm

pinback wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:59 pm
Tdarcos wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:48 pm
AArdvark wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:37 pm
Re: verbal diarrhea. Did they move you into a private room?
No, actually they moved me from a private room to a shared one.
Can we get the other guy on the show?
(1) Ha ha ha, very funny. What show? you haven't done a Don Rogers Show in probably 3 years[*], and the only reason you did most of them was because I kept pushing you to either admit you had quit or do the show.
(2) My current roommate is a man who (told me) has had six strokes, and can't speak louder than a whisper.

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