This is the last I'm going to say regarding any of this because I dislike the person I am when I become overly emotional about something as silly as t-shirts for a guy who obviously would prefer to sabotage a thoughtful gift for him, especially if it means he has to be quiet for five minutes.
Did anyone ask you? Does anyone ever ask you? I didn't say "hey, $60 is too far out of the ballpark so hey Paul, would you have any thoughts on an alternative to make them more affordable?"
No one said that. No one asked. No one cares about your opinion.
Do you seriously expect someone to debate advice and guidance they didn't ask for? No one here would ask for any sort of help from someone who is known to regurgitate Wikipedia articles and a few sources, as if it makes you an expert.
You lost the shirts because not only did you insert yourself where no one asked you to, gave advice no one wanted that was unequivocally useless (though you argue it wasn't which is kind of like a President pardoning himself,) but you also repeatedly framed it in misogynist terminology that automatically causes you to lose all credibility in my eyes.
Do you know what you had to do for me to find a workable solution for the T-Shirts? Say "hey, thank you," relax because someone else was doing all the work, and maybe ramble on about cotton production or the history of linen or whatever. Instead you kept hammering in that it should be your way or the highway, questioned why I was annoyed when you offered "wisdom" that wasn't asked for and not needed in the slightest, and managed to wrap it all up in some of the worst traits of humanity.
I have zero interest in the amount of effort that it would require for me to learn, practice, seek advice, and then spend the time doing what will likely look awful.
Since you won't let off on any of this, here were my requirements:
1. Couldn't ship from China due to the fact it's taking 40+ days (and at this point several months) for packages to arrive in the US.
2. Accommodate five color printing inside a reasonable size for the logo to be applied onto the shirt.
3. Use a shop or service because I do not have time to handle the design, process, application, etc. of a project like this, much less for the one time I'll be doing it.
4. Find the highest tier possible then obtain additional quotes.
5. Avoid if possible, larger, more generic retailers because the screen printing business has been hammered due to a sudden lack of demand and small shops need the work to stay afloat.
6. Preferably use shirts that people would actually want to wear.
How do you manage to be so self righteous when your general information dumps are completely glossed over by everyone here?
Flack at one point said that he completely ignored anything you wrote because it was so much drivel and in this case, I already had plans that you could have asked about before providing "advice" in a "I'm so smart! Why doesn't anyone listen to me?" way that clearly sets you up to be the victim if anyone pushes back.
I was going to spend $100 of my own money to have what would have likely been kick ass Jolt Country art made for the shirts
I've spent my own time that I need to use to calm down, relax, focus and add additional meaning to my life on you.
You didn't ask for the T-Shirts because I thought "Tdarcos is going through a rough time and I'd like to remind him that he isn't alone."
Nothing, absolutely zero of the things I and everyone else here have done for you, are things you're entitled to.
You burned a bridge with someone who actively cared enough about you to sacrifice time, money, energy, and gave you an amount of thoughtfulness that is in limited supply in this world because... You were hurt that advice you gave wasn't readily accepted when... And I can't emphasize this enough:
What have you gained from pushing your point home? Absolutely nothing, instead there is one less person who will actively go out of their way to make your life a little better.
And how many people do you think there are in this world that would do that for you?
Once again Mr. Robinson, you won. Enjoy your prize.