[quote=bryanb post_id=108631 time=1588907193 user_id=2003]
I also think Paul ... gets too wrapped up in ... pissing contests.[/quote]
i can't get involved in pissing contests. I'm catheterized. They take a catheter, it's this flexible hose about the thickness of a pencil lead and a foot long, and after they jam it in my [censored], they then shove it all the way to the [excessively graphic description deleted]. After that, they hook up the catheter to a connector, which provides another much wider hose, that empties my urine into a bag, which they ship to addicts needing clean urine for drug testing, err I mean empty into a urinal and pour in the toilet.

So now you know why I can't engage in pissing contests.
[quote=bryanb post_id=108631 time=1588907193 user_id=2003]
I do think he cares in his own way nonetheless. He might honestly consider several board members to be among the best friends he has in the world, but that's just not always going to be reflected in how he behaves in the heat of a discussion. [/quote]
You sir, are a very dangerous person, and you're doing the one thing that has inevitably gotten the death penalty: speaking the truth. Maybe you should consider a job in psychiatry. The rest of the people on this board are in serious need of help.
[quote=bryanb post_id=108631 time=1588907193 user_id=2003]
The Paul that Robb remembers is still there and we'll see him again, but he's got to compete with the other aspects of Paul's personality.[/quote]
No it doesn't. Yes it does. Look, I am in charge of my personality. No! I am! No, I am! No you're not, it's me! No, it's me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me!
Hold it, hold it, we need to cooperate or we'll wind up in a psych ward. Okay, I'll fix it.

WE ARE THE PAUL. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE. YOU WILL BE ASSIMIL.....

Oh, where am I? I feel better, like I was all broken up inside and was put back together again.
[quote=bryanb post_id=108631 time=1588907193 user_id=2003]
Do we all need to stop and consider what life will be like beyond the Tansindome? (That line is just included to prove what I was saying about all of us not always posting at our best.)
[/quote]
"We don't need another hero (sandwich)
We don't need to know the way (to the) home (key)
All we wanted was Beyond Tansindrome."
- (not) Tina Turnér

[quote=Tdarcos post_id=108636 time=1588930902 user_id=829]
Now, maybe, you start to understand how I feel. [/quote]

The regrettable thing that you said was that Jerry's was anything other than tomato paste on room temperature cardboard.

[redacted for being the wrong thing to do]

[quote=bryanb post_id=108631 time=1588907193 user_id=2003]
He gets too wrapped up in making his arguments and trying to win pointless intellectual pissing contests.
[/quote]
To be fair, he did win the 2018 pissing into Big Gulp cups contest(s).

[quote=bryanb post_id=108631 time=1588907193 user_id=2003]
The Paul that Robb remembers is still there and we'll see him again, but he's got to compete with the other aspects of Paul's personality.
[/quote]
There are a lot of Pauls in there, which come to think of it might explain the girth.

[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=108624 time=1588892400 user_id=3]

I think we both said things that are regrettable here.
[/quote]
Now, maybe, you start to understand how I feel. If someone is acting irresponsibly, like saying they are going into a store without a mask, or plan to go to a big 50-person outdoor public meeting and stand next to other people, also withour protection, it might be okay, [i]based on their actions[/i],to say that they are stupid. It is far better and less confrontational to tell them "You're acting (or about to act) stupidly," or "that's the most moronic thing someone said they were going to do I've heard all year."

It's one thing when someone says something you disagree with, [i]especially when it's pure opinion[/i],to call them something insulting. On the other hand, calling their [i]ideas[/i] stupid, crazy, moronic, insane, etc., is fine and is part of robust debate. What is not right is to call the [i]person[/i] those things.

I feel bad about that sick jab I got Tdarcos with. It was so perfectly executed but at the same time it made me feel like a real piece of shit. I think we all learned a lesson today on the wrong thing to do.

[quote=AArdvark post_id=108630 time=1588901255 user_id=20]
It's probably the constant pain and the limited expectations of his future rhat cause him to lash out at us. Don't take it to heart.
[/quote]

I agree 100% with that. I also think Paul has internalized the idea that what guys do is good-naturedly rib and mock insult one another, but he sometimes (often) forgets the good-natured aspect of it. He gets too wrapped up in making his arguments and trying to win pointless intellectual pissing contests. If you're going to attack people over very small things or write multiple angry paragraphs on issues no one really cares much about, it starts to seem personal. I do think he cares in his own way nonetheless. He might honestly consider several board members to be among the best friends he has in the world, but that's just not always going to be reflected in how he behaves in the heat of a discussion.

The Paul that Robb remembers is still there and we'll see him again, but he's got to compete with the other aspects of Paul's personality. That much is true for all of us. None of us are always at our best when we post here apart from possibly Hugella and she's just really sparing with her posts. I hope the future of Jolt Country and Caltrops aren't in any way going to depend on Robb and Paul always getting along because that's probably never going to happen. To be honest, it never occurred to me that that relationship was so pivotal behind the scenes.

Do we all need to stop and consider what life will be like beyond the Tansindome? (That line is just included to prove what I was saying about all of us not always posting at our best.)

It's probably the constant pain and the limited expectations of his future rhat cause him to lash out at us. Don't take it to heart.

[quote=AArdvark post_id=108628 time=1588897420 user_id=20]
Saying it three times doesn't work like Beetlejuice!

THE
AARDVARK
AARDVARK
AARDVARK
[/quote]

It just hurts because I thought Tdarcos and I were friends. And then I see him say such hateful things. Makes me wonder why I bother with this site, with any of it. I think back to the times where I really felt close to him, like when I'd pay him to post on Caltrops and he dutifully brought the content or that time where he was really cool when the Hugo article on Wikipedia got targeted for deletion. Such great times lost now. It just gets me down.

Saying it three times doesn't work like Beetlejuice!

THE
AARDVARK
AARDVARK
AARDVARK

[quote=Tdarcos post_id=108623 time=1588888840 user_id=829]
Let me try and make this simple.
[size=200]I HAVEN'T EATEN ANY PORK PATTIES IN OVER FIVE YEARS! STOP TALKING ABOUT ME EATING FUCKING PORK PATTIES!
I HAVEN'T EATEN ANY PORK PATTIES IN OVER FIVE YEARS! STOP TALKING ABOUT ME EATING FUCKING PORK PATTIES!
I HAVEN'T EATEN ANY PORK PATTIES IN OVER FIVE YEARS! STOP TALKING ABOUT ME EATING FUCKING PORK PATTIES!
[/size]
[/quote]
I mean, repeating it three times kind of makes it more complicated.

[quote]Okay. You have been very kind and sympathetic, and are a decent human being who deserves to live. You must not die soon, and not choking to death, drowning in your own vomit. That would be a horrible way to die and it should not happen to you anytime soon.[/quote]

[quote]Oh, that hurts. That is a pretty vile and nasty, untrue thing to say. And the worst thing is you know it's untrue. I'll manage, I'm thick skinned, but I hate to think you would be that cruel. It is entirely possible I have problems, but aspergers and autism isn't part of them, because you can't contract them as an adult, only as a child. And I know when I was a child I did not have them because I had a Verbal IQ of 130.[/quote]

I think we both said things that are regrettable here.

[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=108618 time=1588874956 user_id=3]
You're wrong about everything all the time[/quote]
Okay. You have been very kind and sympathetic, and are a decent human being who deserves to live. You must not die soon, and not choking to death, drowning in your own vomit. That would be a horrible way to die and it should not happen to you anytime soon.
[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=108618 time=1588874956 user_id=3]
you need to be knocked down to the level at which you are at, a pork patty-consuming[/quote]
Let me try and make this simple.
[size=200]I HAVEN'T EATEN ANY PORK PATTIES IN OVER FIVE YEARS! STOP TALKING ABOUT ME EATING FUCKING PORK PATTIES!
I HAVEN'T EATEN ANY PORK PATTIES IN OVER FIVE YEARS! STOP TALKING ABOUT ME EATING FUCKING PORK PATTIES!
I HAVEN'T EATEN ANY PORK PATTIES IN OVER FIVE YEARS! STOP TALKING ABOUT ME EATING FUCKING PORK PATTIES!
[/size]
Maybe it will be clear now.

[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=108618 time=1588874956 user_id=3]sperglord that doesn't have enough sense to understand he has low-class taste.
[/quote]
Oh, that hurts. That is a pretty vile and nasty, untrue thing to say. And the worst thing is you know it's untrue. I'll manage, I'm thick skinned, but I hate to think you would be that cruel. It is entirely possible I have problems, but aspergers and autism isn't part of them, because you can't contract them as an adult, only as a child. And I know when I was a child I did not have them because I had a Verbal IQ of 130.

[quote=Tdarcos post_id=108606 time=1588868738 user_id=829]
[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=108600 time=1588812004 user_id=3]
After all these years the most aggravating thing about you is that you're either too dumb to understand group you vs specific you or you think it's "funny" to confuse them.
[/quote]

I don't get you at all. I have eaten Jerry's pizza, more than once. I have always found it excellent. Now, you, and with the exception of Billy Mays, all the rest of you, have never been to a Jerry's restaurant, never been near one of their pizzas, and never eaten one, can now proceed to speek [i]ex cathedra[/i] from your asshole that you know for a fact you know this pizza is bad.[/quote]

Yes, you stupid shit, that's because the rest of us have lived our lives and traveled and been places. We've experienced the world so we get to talk from a position of knowing more about it than you. I was trying to tell you that in the other post, but you have no idea what a trope is because you're wrong about everything and you proceeded to vomit up some General Zod nonsense.

You're wrong about everything all the time and that is usually fun but when you try to get haughty about it you need to be knocked down to the level at which you are at, a pork patty-consuming sperglord that doesn't have enough sense to understand he has low-class taste.

[quote=Tdarcos post_id=108606 time=1588868738 user_id=829]and with the exception of Billy Mays[/quote]

I was being ironic.

I never said Jerry's didn't serve a delicious product, only that I have counted the number of NY-style pizzas the entire franchise has ever made and sold, and the number is zero.

[quote="Billy Mays" post_id=108605 time=1588831368 user_id=1042]
I ate at Jerry's once. Good food, friendly staff, I don't know why you guys are giving Paul such a hard time over it.
[/quote]
Exactly.
[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=108600 time=1588812004 user_id=3]
After all these years the most aggravating thing about you is that you're either too dumb to understand group you vs specific you or you think it's "funny" to confuse them.
[/quote]

I don't get you at all. I have eaten Jerry's pizza, more than once. I have always found it excellent. Now, you, and with the exception of Billy Mays, all the rest of you, have never been to a Jerry's restaurant, never been near one of their pizzas, and never eaten one, can now proceed to speek [i]ex cathedra[/i] from your asshole that you know for a fact you know this pizza is bad.

Do the world a favor: stop acting like Donald Trump and quit giving opinions about something where you have absolutely zero kowledge about and where it is patently obvious you don't have the sligtese fucking clue.

Jesus H Christ, how the mighty have fallen! You've gotten so ridiculous, the only person on this board with any sense is Billy Mays.

I ate at Jerry's once. Good food, friendly staff, I don't know why you guys are giving Paul such a hard time over it.

After all these years the most aggravating thing about you is that you're either too dumb to understand group you vs specific you or you think it's "funny" to confuse them.

[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=108589 time=1588796621 user_id=3]
[quote]What on earth do you mean by "bamboozled" and "awful"? I know what tastes good. i know what I like. And I can taste the difference.[/quote]
If you're saying you understand that sometimes you want to slum it when it comes to food- fine. [/quote]
No, I [size=200]never[/size] "slum it." I eat what tastes good. I do not buy on price alone. I will pay extra for better products. If I tried something and it did not taste good, I never bought that product again. I do not buy garbage.
[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=108589 time=1588796621 user_id=3]
No frozen pizza is good.[/quote]
In your opinion. I disagree. To paraphrase The Mythbusters, "I reject ypur opinion and substitute my own." I have a really simple solution. Don't eat frozen pizza if you don't like it. End of problem.
[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=108589 time=1588796621 user_id=3] But sometimes you don't want "good." Sometimes you want something you can shove into your gob 20 minutes after you get home and the dogs have shat all over the carpet and Christ kill me. [/quote]
First, i never had a dog. Second, I have never stooped that low. When I was in University Park iIf I had nothing good I'd go get something. With a Whole Paycheck err I mean Whole Foods literally across the street, and a burger place, a sub shop, and a pizza place all 1 block further, I had lots of choices.
[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=108589 time=1588796621 user_id=3] Pizza Hut in the 80s was a 3.5 out of 10, but now it's 0 out of 10.[/quote]
In your opinion. I disagree. To paraphrase The Mythbusters, "I reject ypur opinion and substitute my own." I have a really simple solution. Don't eat Pizza Hut if you don't like it. End of problem.
[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=108589 time=1588796621 user_id=3] Any time a corporate chain in the US takes over some industry they suck.[/quote]
Not true. There are some companies known for building quality products. They are often the market leader in their industries. Many are known for paying much better than their competitors. Sure, they aren't always the cheapest but they are better, since that's how they can justify a premium price.
[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=108589 time=1588796621 user_id=3] Capitalism demands they suck. [/quote]
No, it doesn't. Short term, cut costs "by any means necessary" thinking is what demands they suck, Places run by beancounters. Companies having long-term vision, considering how they can build a product that is superior to competitors and make more money, those are the ones that last and do better.

Now, if you operate in a market where cost is everything and those who don't cut prices die, then it's not the company who is causing the problem, it's the customer buying on price only. In which case, the customers who decided better taste (for food) or better quality (for manufactured goods) is not worth it, then they are the ones who have chosen shoddy merchandise.

Companies that decide to focus on quality can do well when there is a significant differentiator. And that includes franchises. McDonalds used to be known for cheap eats, which is why its stores didn't pay much. There are other chains, like Five Guys, and In-N-Out, who make better product, are only slightly higher than the so-called low price place, and they pay more, and they still do quite well.

[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=108589 time=1588796621 user_id=3]JERRY'S is a regional equivalent and terrible and everyone here knows it.[/quote]
In your opinion. With the exception of Ben, there probably isn't any of you that's been within shouting distance of a store, and probably none within smelling distance of a Jerry's Pizza, let alone tasted one. Or actually eaten one.

[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=108589 time=1588796621 user_id=3[quote]But let me ask you, how many Jerry's Subs and Pizza New York-style pizzas have you eaten?[/quote]
I'm going to leave you with a quote...[/quote]
That's not an answer, A simple number - which you did not provide but I'll presume to be 0 - was all you had to say.

[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=108589 time=1588796621 user_id=3from either one of the Thor movies or one of the Avenger movies. Loki... is making a speech about how humanity is a bunch of sheep.

Loki: "In the end you will always kneel."
Old Guy (rises): "Not to men like you."
Loki: "There are no men like me."
Old Guy: "There are always men like you."

You probably don't recognize the quote, not because you haven't seen the movie but because the quote is accurate.
[/quote]
Don't proceed to tell me what I do or do not recognize. No, I did not see the movie, but I recognize the trope even if I don't know its name.

In one of the Superman movies, General Zod and his two associates escape from their glass prison after Superman becomes mortal so he can nail lois Lane. Zod & Company defeat the combined armies of the world, and effectively destroy the White House, demanding the world surrender. So, A man claiming to be the President of the United States offers to surrender on behalf of the world.

Zod tells him to kneel before him, and when the guy subserviently obeys, Zod says this cannot be the true President, no leader of his stature would be that spineless. The real president agrees, coming forward, saying he'll do it if it will stop further deaths. As he kneels, Zod says, "Including your own."

[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=108589 time=1588796621 user_id=3] I don't need to have a "Jerry's" pie to know what it's all about, [i]Commander.[/i][/quote]
"I've never tried it, don't know what irt's like, and won't want it. I don't like carrots. I certainly won't like carrot cake."

A man who has never tried it, doesn't know what it's like is certain it's not going to be any good. Well, that's fine, because, chances are, you will never be near one of their stores.