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Re: Mr. Robot

by Flack » Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:14 pm

If you like series about hacking as told by an unreliable narrator, then sure. In retrospect, I'm wondering if watching the series a second time, clues will be more obvious.

Re: Mr. Robot

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:40 pm

I appreciate you telling me that. I have been warned over the years to not fetishize spoilers. I gotta admit I am not a huge fan of the "person was dead the whole time" thing and it seems like they have doubled down on it.

When Boggit died, I swore I saw him go around corners for the next week. My completely unscientific, probable-bullshit theory for this was because there were so many pets at my house my brain was trained to "see" them dart around for split seconds and it took a bit of time for my subconscious to catch up with reality. I can get behind that kind of "convincing yourself that a dead person is around" thing, but this TV / Sixth Sense trope where fake people are hanging around munching on Cheetos and having long conversations.... I dunno, I'm a bit burned out of that.

But none of that is really important - do you think the performances and direction gave you something to enjoy and think about? Would you ultimately recommend it?

Re: Mr. Robot

by Flack » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:34 pm

According to Sam Esmail, the entire show was plotted out from the very beginning. I find that a little hard to believe, as he also said he originally envisioned Mr. Robot as a movie and it played out over four seasons, but the twist payoff at the end, Esmail says he planned from the beginning.

So, let's just go to spoiler town and get it over with. You've been warned.

In S04E09, F Society's hack of the Dues Group works, essentially slurping billions of dollars from hundreds of bank accounts and moving it to a secret offshore account. The bad guys have been completely defunded.

In S04E10, Darlene (Elliot's sister) and Dom (the FBI agent) plan their getaway. Elliot stays behind because he has sworn to wipe Whiterose's computer once and for all. Whiterose supposedly has some sort of time-altering device and/or plans on her computer. Before they depart, Darlene equally distributes the stolen money to everybody across America.

In S04E11, Elliot enters the local nuclear plant to launch his hack, but is thwarted by Whiterose's Dark Army guards. Whiterose attempts to convince Elliot that she really does possess a time altering device by shooting herself in the head. Elliot, along with Mr. Robot, are left behind to play a game on an Apple II in hopes of stopping the reactor from melting down. They fail, and are apparently blown into an alternate universe of some kind. (Is it in his head? Is it an alternate universe? Is it a computer simulation?) In this world, everyone who has been killed in the previous four seasons is alive and his entire life has changed. In this world, his father did not molest him or die of cancer, his mother did not abuse him, he is set to marry Angela (who is, or at least was, dead), and so on.

In S04E12 and S04E13, we learn that Elliot was knocked unconscious by the blast and has been in a local hospital. What we thought was an alternate universe was just in his mind. More importantly though, through the two-hour episode, we eventually learn that "Elliot" (the character we have been following for four seasons) is just another one of the real Elliot's personalities. The person we have known as Elliot is simply known as "The Mastermind" and is one of the real Elliot's personalities, along with Mr. Robot, the mom, and young Elliot. So while everything we saw happen throughout the show's run really happened (except the dream world of S04E11-13), who we thought was "Elliot" was really just one of the real Elliot's personalities, run amok.

Re: Mr. Robot

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Thu Dec 26, 2019 4:37 pm

Flack wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:46 am Like, aaaaaaaaaany questions about the show.
I don't know that I am going to continue figuring out where I left off and watch it any more. I liked the performances. I liked the episode they did that was a throwback to ALF or a typical 80s USA show.

But from what I have seen scanning this thread, it looks like there are lots of questions about what happened? And I just don't think the writers had a plan. Did the writers have a plan, in your opinion?

Re: Mr. Robot

by Flack » Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:59 pm

It could be about Whiterose. Or the multiple personalities inside Elliot's head. Or the twist ending that people are calling one of the greatest final episodes in television history. Any of those things.

Re: Mr. Robot

by Flack » Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:46 am

Like, aaaaaaaaaany questions about the show.

Re: Mr. Robot

by Flack » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:01 am

Tonight was the two-part season and series finale.

You may AMA, although I will warn you that there's a thread on Reddit with 13.7k responses full of people asking what the fuck just happened.

Re: Mr. Robot

by Flack » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:45 am

In S04E09 ("Exit"), Elliot became trapped inside a nuclear reactor as it was melting down. Fortunately, Whiterose left an escape behind for him. The answer was hidden inside a graphical text adventure, which Elliot was forced to play on a conveniently located Apple II.

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Re: Mr. Robot

by Flack » Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:36 pm

Tonight was the next to last night for Mr. Robot. Next week is the double-episode series finale.

I want to post a single comment about tonight's episode, but it's a pretty big spoiler, so I'm going to make it real small. Cut/paste it into Notepad if you want to read it.

Whiterose initiated a nuclear meltdown that appears to have moved Elliot into an alternate universe. Everyone who was dead is now alive, everyone who was alive is missing, and in the final scene of the episode, Elliot goes home and runs into... himself.

Re: Mr. Robot

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:18 am

One thing I noticed is that I think I am paying for services that I don't know I am paying for.

https://reelgood.com/show/mr-robot-2015

I have access to all of Mr. Robot thanks to Amazon. Who knew!

Re: Mr. Robot

by Flack » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:32 am

Here's a typical hacking scene from Mr. Robot. You may need to pause it a few times because some of the screens flash by pretty quickly, but it's pretty legit.



In one of the earlier episodes, two guys are flipping channels and they come across the movie Hackers. One of them turns to the other and says, “I’ve been in this game 27 years. Not once have I come across an animated singing virus.”

Re: Mr. Robot

by Jizaboz » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:12 am

Tdarcos mode post:

I have not seen this show. Partly because I don’t get the channel/stream and also because I loathe “hacking” movies and shows about 99% of the time.

However, I started watching Le Femme Nikita from episode 1 recently. In episode 3 there is a “hacking scene” where the chick is typing away in typical stupid fashion while a dude says “type exactly what I say” in typical fashion.

“Type kill dash nine and the number..” holy shit! Really? Man, how did I miss this show.

Mr. Robot is going on the When I am in Hospice One Day list if you guys can convince me shit like this happens.

Re: Mr. Robot

by Flack » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:31 pm

In S04E07, the show revealed the source of the trauma behind Elliot's multiple personalities. It's tough to tell if this was the intention all along, or if the show decided to throw us a curve ball. Either way, it was a pretty heavy episode.

Spoiler 1: Also, Vera came back.
Spoiler 2: Also, Vera's dead.

Re: Mr. Robot

by RealNC » Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:34 am

Was it worth it? Should I skip this show?

Re: Mr. Robot

by Flack » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:33 pm

I am now up to date and have seen every episode.

Re: Mr. Robot

by Flack » Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:37 am

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The first time was when Romero (one of the original members of fsociety) got shot (by, we think, the Dark Army) . His death was the catalyst that sent the other members into hiding -- Mobley and Trenton fled to another state, got fake identities, and started new lives. Darlene was eventually picked up by the FBI, while Elliot went to jail (I think that was during the same time; it's all running together). Much later, it is revealed that Romero died from a stray bullet completely unrelated to anything. Everybody freaked out for no reason, and the FBI are the luckiest agency in the world.

The second time was when "stage three" of fsociety's plan was introduced. Trenton's parting gift to Elliot is an email that says Romero may have exported and saved encryption keys that could be used to decrypt Evil Corp's data and undo all the damage that's been done*. This story spans most of the third season. The keys were most likely stored on USB sticks which were taken as evidence by the FBI at the site of Romero's murder. This leads to all sorts of story lines, like Darlene seducing Dom (the female FBI agent she's working with) and Elliot getting a job with Evil Corp and all these other things. At the end of season three, Elliot gains access to the FBI's most secure database and discovers the keys are not there; instead, he (Elliot/Mr. Robot) had them all along. Ha ha. Which means everything they did in season three was a wild goose chase.

(*except bring back all the cast members who have been murdered.)

Re: Mr. Robot

by Flack » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:29 pm

Nope, there's one more season.

So far at least twice in the show's run, there have been long story arcs that in the end were red herrings. It would be like if toward the end of Star Wars, Luke opened the trunk of his landspeeder, slapped his head, and said "ah crap, the Death Star plans were here all along!" What's worse is that both of these arcs led to people getting getting killed.

Season three was better than season two, I can say that. By the end of the third season, none of the characters in this show should trust anyone else in the show ever again.

I think it was in season three but there were some really stupid scenes of Elliot physically fighting himself. The Fight Club homages continue.

Re: Mr. Robot

by Ice Cream Jonsey » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:43 pm

Is it properly ended after season 3?

Last thing I remember is that the cute sassy chick with the lips is Freddie's sister. I think.

Re: Mr. Robot

by Flack » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:32 pm

I just finished season three so ask me anything.*

(*Tdarcos clause: about Mr. Robot seasons 1-3.)

Re: Mr. Robot

by Flack » Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:17 pm

Yeah, I don't blame you. I read that Sam Esmail originally intended the show to be a single film, and a lot of what's happening feels like a deliberate attempt to stretch a little bit of content into a lotta episodes.

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