[quote=AArdvark post_id=99477 time=1545087136 user_id=20]
Did any other home computer system have a demoscene besides the C64? I've never ever seen a demo for anything but the Commodore. I could Google this.... but then where's the content?
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When the 16bit machines hit the market, most of the C64 demo makers moved to either the Amiga or the Atari ST. Here are a couple of YouTube playlists with demos from each of those machines. (I love putting these on in the background during the day at work!)

Atari ST: [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrLmYI7iS9Q&list=PLHke3Z9WtX_XZBwKocKao9a99nXz05kea]Link[/url]
Amiga: [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFs5svKwp24&list=PL7C791DD55914C154]Link[/url]

It took a few years for PC hardware to catch up, but once it did, DOS demos took off.

DOS: [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTjnt_WSJu8&list=PLK7_Bh0oHAPE3WcT6o8miSDNnu4zkp3hp]Link[/url]

This is one of the most famous (and one of my favorite) demos for the Amiga called State of the Art. There are only a few frames of animation, but with lots of different effects, they made it seem like much more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89wq5EoXy-0

Demo makers continue the art form today. With infinite processing power at their fingertips, their only limitation these days is their own creativity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAyQeX8a-Bw

[quote=AArdvark post_id=99477 time=1545087136 user_id=20]
Did any other home computer system have a demoscene besides the C64?[/quote]
Are you serious? :shock:

Every computer ever made has a demoscene. Including the latest PCs with 8-cores and $3000 GPUs and whatnot.

Did any other home computer system have a demoscene besides the C64? I've never ever seen a demo for anything but the Commodore. I could Google this.... but then where's the content?

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[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=97086 time=1529216111 user_id=3]Waitasec. I was able to play the video at home. That's DK Jr. for the C64? Christ that's beautiful. That has to be the best looking version of the game besides the arcade. God, with the C64 was on, it was on.[/quote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acp9ixaKFZk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vADKoSDqhdk

Apparently the us version of the C64 mini is out and the games list looks decent enough:

https://youtu.be/Gtxp5rwEsoY

Started playing around with a C64 emulator and was actually impressed with the graphics and how well the games played, especially since I was a 486 and NES child.

[quote=Flack post_id=97015 time=1528557200 user_id=840]
No. My point was, millions of people have a fondness for the Commodore 64, and not because of its terrible word processors.

Instead they're all playing crap games that look like ass, like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgox9nxh-cs
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Waitasec. I was able to play the video at home. That's DK Jr. for the C64? Christ that's beautiful. That has to be the best looking version of the game besides the arcade. God, with the C64 was on, it was on.

(I need to get a working one here at home.)

I liked Asteroids. My best friend used to be able to flip the score counter when he worked in a restaurant/bar. I would help him by providing underage beers for us while he pounded fire buttons.

Wait...what?

Don't puss out on me now, Billy -- we're in this together! Fuck these old men and their old games!

[quote="Ice Cream Jonsey" post_id=97065 time=1529161472 user_id=3]
Yeah, Asteroids is a kid's game...
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I was worried that it would dilute my statement if I admitted that I really enjoy Asteroids.

There's these rocks in space and your job is to remove them. Simple enough...but wait! What if you were contracted to make way for a hyperspace bypass or something. now it's not just a game, it's a job. That's what I like about the old games, there's no complete back-story or anything. You just do your job and get a high score, that's it.

This rant is partly because of a 'The Last Of Us 2' review I saw on the BBC. Who said us gamers wanted an interactive movie? We want high scores and a chance to enter our initials so we can brag to our friends that we accomplished something. Then we can get on with real life.

OK, back to the Atari VCS. Being able to to bring the games into our living rooms was revolutionary. The first time I started up my 2600 I felt like putting on my tri-cornered hat and hefting a musket. It was that great! I must have played Slot Cars for two days, and that is truly a crap game if ever there was one. But there was something about being in control of my TV instead of the other way around that made it glorious.
Now, Atari (or whoever) wants to give me that feeling back for the low, low price of eighty bucks! Who could say no to that?

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Yeah, Asteroids is a kid's game, as if there's anyone under the age of 30 that can spend more than 5 minutes on it without totally embarrassing themselves.

I was wrong about everything I enjoy. I've seen the light now. Thanks, guys!

No offense, but these games crap. The 80's spawned some of the greatest RPG's of all time and you guys are arguing over kids' games.

That's magnificent.

With only so many hours in the day, I'd rather spend my time enjoying things than worrying about what other people enjoy. And I certainly don't have the time or energy to worry about people who worry about what I enjoy.

I'll concede that some (okay, a lot) of Atari 2600 games were pretty bad, but that doesn't mean there aren't games I still enjoy playing. Same for the C64, same for lots of old computers and gaming systems.

One thing I enjoy about these old systems is seeing what types of games people are able to make for them today. Here's a screen shot of "Space Rocks" for the Atari 2600.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/IachxSr.png[/img]

Yars Revenge was unique to 2600 and was awesome.

I mean, here is the thing - we aren't saying that the 2600 doesn't have home versions of UNDENIABLY GREAT games. It has a version of Defender, Ms. Pac-Man, Asteroids, Donkey Kong, Tempest, Q*bert, Warlords and like you say Dig Dug. However, it doesn't have great home versions of most of those. I can't remember if the 2600 version of Dig Dug is good - it would be a little different as the monitor alignment is different on a TV.

[quote=pinback post_id=97046 time=1529006096 user_id=5]
I mean, we all had a VCS and it was the greatest thing of all time, but can we admit now that every single game was garbage, it was just the best we could do? Yes, even Pit-fucking-fall?
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Dig Dug, dude! Freakin' Dig Dug!

Mmmm. If you say so. I mean, I loved that goddamn thing, please understand. You could play games on your TV. Awesome. And we had so much fun.

But, as it did with so many things and lives, Asteroids ruined everything. Space Invaders kind of ruined everything, because it came out only a year after the 2600, and though they came out with a passable 2600 version, you could already tell, huh, these games kinda suck.

But then Asteroids came out in '79, which is still the best game ever, obviously, and they made a 2600 version, and we all bought it and played it for hours, because, goddamn, Asteroids on my TV, but there was no mistaking. This sucked, this wasn't Asteroids, but it's all we had on our TV.

And that, if you look back, will be your reaction to all of these 2600 games you hold in high regard. Wow, this actually sucked, but goddamn, we could play it on our TV, and it was GRAND, I tell you.

It was grand. I love the fuckin 2600.