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AArdvark



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is weird because so many of the topics here pertain to me. I had never, NEVER heard of Max Paine until someone accidentally made an extra copy and gave me one. This puts me in the same category as:
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If you woke up tomorrow completely ignorant of the Max Payne series
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So I played it almost halfway through. I found that the game made me depressed. Maybe it was all the persistent night rain. Maybe the slow motion rag-doll effect as selected cleaners get blown away. Maybe the creepy, Pink Floyd-esque dream sections. I dunno, but the more I played, the less I liked it until I just had to remove it from my machine or go insane and visit a college campus with an armload of automatic weapons. This has never happened with Sonic the Hedgehog games.

Pirates! is indeed one of my favorites. There is a threshold of newness to the game however. After your fifteenth million broadside attack, your sixteenth million swordfight and your seventeenth million dance (of which I will NEVER be considered the Arthur Murray of swashbuckling) You tend to get jaded of the game. The quests are pretty cool though and the town attack is one of the highlights of the game. They managed to get a pretty simple but involving turn-based minigame included where it was really needed. In the past, town attack was kind of a free-for-all which you could never hope to succeed, no matter how many groups of angry pirates you had under your control.
I always keep my parties of freebooters too long and they desert me. Then I manage to kill off most of them so when the plunder is divided up everyone (except me) gets a huge share and my fame goes up. The first time I played the 2004 version I was up half the night and could not focus on work the next day as I was busily planning my strategy for when I arrived home that evening. Truly the mark of a good game.

GTA:SA = N/T

Still play Mafia, though. Just drive around and cause trouble. Loads of fun

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinback wrote:
It took until 83rd, but we finally got a decent goddamn game on this list.

There is one major flaw in Tempest, though, which I think needs to be addressed here:

By holding down the fire button, the spikes cease to become a threat while you're warping to the next level, rendering their entire existence, much like my own, pointless.

Discuss?


That's not strictly true. You can only fire a certain number of bullets at a certain rate in Tempest. It is more likely, if the spikes are allowed to breed and create great mischief, that you will impale yourself on a long string of them, because you warp faster than your gun can chip away.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That'd have to be one long mufuckin' spike, though. It'd have to be like Arnold on Green Acres.
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a device that lets me play actual NES and Genesis cartridges.

I may have been slightly hasty in having Super Dodge Ball on the list. It's kind of a blurry mess with a singular flaw: the ball doesn't move faster than the players.

So, uh, whoops.

Also, Spacewar should not be on the list. Wait. Here is a new post.
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The following games are probably NOT in the top 100 of all-time.

98. Alien vs. Predator (Jaguar)
94. Xenophobe (Arcade)
90. Spider Fighter (2600)
77. Bump n' Jump (Arcade)
46. Space War (PC)
30. Super Dodge Ball (NES)

Sorry about that! Clearly, great games have been released since the list started, and I have had a chance to replay some of those games that I was simply using memories for, to rate. Whoops! My mistake! The list should definitely be re-done.
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spacewar most definitely should be on the list.
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was the original Spacewar, the original one made by Steve Russell... turn-based?! Was it? WAS it? WAS IT?

I'm re-reading the same six books over and over again, as I am wont to do, and I honestly can't tell if the original version had them skating around in real-time or not.
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The one I am thinking of is realtime. It's like Asteroids, except for shooting rocks, you shoot the other guy.
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have done the research, and yes, the original version was real-time.

The version Mike and I played was PC specific. Hey, I just found it! It's here: http://www.ii.pw.edu.pl/~borkowsm/games.htm

Annnnnnnnnnd here is an article on the original:

http://www.wheels.org/spacewar/creative/SpacewarOrigin.html
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So? Top 100 or not?
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I accept that it doesn't still draw the same feelings, but man, playing Bump n' Jump back in the day sure was great. How many years did it take other games to provide the same level of exhilaration?
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:
Also, Spacewar should not be on the list.


Suck. My. Balls.

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread took a turn for the aggressive!

The deal with Bump n' Jump is that one could rip out the arcade games from my list and see the following, in their own order:

1. Robotron
2. Ms. Pac-Man
3. Mr. Do!
4. Crystal Castles
5. Q*bert
6. Spy Hunter
7. Gauntlet II
8. Defender
9. Qix
10. Tetris
11. Mortal Kombat II
12. Discs of Tron
13. Joust
14. Warlords
15. Bump N' Jump
16. Cyberball
17. Tempest
18. Asteroids
19. Shinobi
20. Xenophobe

And clearly Xenophobe isn't a top 20 game.
Clearly, Tempest and Asteroids shouldn't be behind... some of the games they are behind.
Clearly if someone is doing a list of the best arcade games ever made, Donkey Kong, Galaga and Major Havoc have to be involved somewhere. I look like an enormous jerk having Shinobi over Galaga. I can't think of a single person who would agree.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bruce wrote:
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:
Also, Spacewar should not be on the list.


Suck. My. Balls.

Bruce


Well, I have two people saying that it would be in their top 100, so what do I know. Maybe I did get it right the first time!

I think that the PC version I linked to earlier is superior, however. Please don't hit me. It gives you a certain amount of energy for phasers and shields, and you can move energy from one to the other. That's pretty nifty. If I ever get in a room with that executable, moslo, and someone who will play it with me, I'll bump this thread with how much fun the PC version is.

I was also yelled at about Spider Fighter tonight, off-line.
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:

Clearly if someone is doing a list of the best arcade games ever made, Donkey Kong, Galaga and Major Havoc have to be involved somewhere. I look like an enormous jerk having Shinobi over Galaga. I can't think of a single person who would agree.


Two out of three ain't bad.

I really don't understand your Major Havoc fixation. It's an OK game, but honestly, the Tempest cabs it got inserted into shoulda remained Tempest.

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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Bruce.

Major Havoc? Suck. My. Balls.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:
Tiger Woods 2003 (IIRC! I have to double check this) *is* on the list.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your games got worse as the franchise went on, which exposes flaws in earlier games. I AM MOVING THE BALL, HURRR. Fuck you Tiger
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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