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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where do you plan on putting Norm Koger's TANKS, anyway? I mean, seriously here, it was an excellent, excellent wargame, which never got the props it truly deserved (and it got quite a few).

I just want to know, is Norm Koger's TANKS top 50? Top 75? Or are you excluding it from the list entirely?

And if the latter, can you please explain why?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case you don't remember the game, here's a screenie:



If you'd like to read more (and download a free copy!), you can go here: http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/tanks.htm

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Well, this is still my all-time favorite! Up to this writing, no other wargame has managed to take TANKS! place in my heart. In fact, as time goes by, this great game remains unmatched. It's small, fast and powerful - light on excessive "eye candy" and assorted junk (and complications - no DirectX tweaking, no boring video problems), but heavy on wargaming detail and "playability". Many of the features that some recent or even newly announced wargames are finding hard to implement today, such as armor-facing, or armor piercing effects of the different weapons adequately balanced (including the influence of various types of ammunition available to all weapons), were clearly and effectively implemented in TANKS! back in 1994-95...
If I had to pick only one game to remain in my HD, I'd surely choose TANKS!


Yes, it was a truly fantastic game. I would actually put it much higher than 99th on my own personal list, but I was being generous.

So, Jonsey, again: Where are you putting it on YOUR list? And WHY?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, where will BEGIN, the greatest tactical starship battle game in the history of computers (including the fancy 3D Starfleet Command series) end up on your list?



Surely top 30, yes?

And if not... WHY NOT???
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, yeha, yeah.

The fuck is Knight Orc on yours?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, and while I'm at it, how about Empire Deluxe, the greatest beer 'n' pretzels, addictive-as-fucking-crack strategy game of all time?



Where will you be putting THAT on your list? If it ain't top 20, I'd like to know why not, frankly.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:
yeah, yeha, yeah.

The fuck is Knight Orc on yours?


That's funny, Jonsey! Because it's NOT on mine. Because I don't have the fucking stones to put out a list of the "greatest games of all time" without PLAYING all of 'em, you stupid, arrogant twat.

EAT ME.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's funny, Jonsey! Because it's NOT on mine. Because I don't have the fucking stones to put out a list of the "greatest games of all time" without PLAYING all of 'em, you stupid, arrogant twat.


I know you don't have the stones. That's why you're living your life inside the bottle.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good one!

"Do you think it's fair to rate games based solel--" YOU'RE AN ALCOHOLIC!!!!

"No, I'm just saying, there are countless games which, by no fault of your own, you might not have gotten a chanc--" FUCK YOU, LUSHY!!!

"There's really no call for that. I'm simpl--" GLUG GLUG GLUG!!!!

Great job, ICJ.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinback wrote:
Great job, IC--.


IS THIS YOU OR THE BOTTLE SPEAKING?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinback wrote:
Where do you plan on putting Norm Koger's TANKS, anyway? I mean, seriously here, it was an excellent, excellent wargame, which never got the props it truly deserved (and it got quite a few). And if the latter, can you please explain why?


Have I played Noam Kroger's TANKS? No. But I have played other wargames. I have played the best wargame, which is so good people don't even consider it a wargame. I have played Civilization II.

Don't you fucking start in on me, pal. I don't need to actually play a game to know it's fucking pants. What did you pop up with next, BASICA Star Trek? Yes, I played it. No, it's not very good. No, it's not in my list.

There's one fighting game in the list. I can't recall if there are more than two side-scrollers but if there are it's not much more than that. I understand genre and luckily for me 99.99999% of all games fit nicely in one. You get one that doesn't like, say, Discs of Tron and I've played it and can rate it accordingly.

But throw out more crap that we've all seen a thousand times!!!! WHERE IS GOLDEN TEE 2004 YOU SICK FUCK??? OH GOD HOW COULD YOU LEAVE OFF RON HOWLETT'S GREASE MORTAR?? SURELY IT IS NUMBER SEVEN ON YOUR LIST AND IF NOT WHY???
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're halfway down the second page of this godawful thread. Here's a crazy idea:

POST A FUCKING GAME. ANYTHING IN THE TOP 100 WILL DO.

ICJ wrote:
THE BEST 100 GAMES OF ALL TIME ARE ZORK


FINE! JUST POST SOMETHING!!! AUGUGHrghogdfhogj;gfbkxnn ''vyu98 y80[
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But throw out more crap that we've all seen a thousand times!!!! WHERE IS GOLDEN TEE 2004 YOU SICK FUCK??? OH GOD HOW COULD YOU LEAVE OFF RON HOWLETT'S GREASE MORTAR?? SURELY IT IS NUMBER SEVEN ON YOUR LIST AND IF NOT WHY???


So your list (which I'm now inclined to think we will never, ever see) is a list of 100 GENRES, with one game picked from each of them, and since there are nowhere near 100 genres, it's just a bunch of best-of-class picks, and then ANY GAME WHICH WASN'T A FIGHTING/SPACE/WAR/SHOOTING/PUZZLE/ADVENTURE/RTS/ARG/PLATFORM game.

I can't wait.

(Even though it appears I'll have to. Forever.)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BUT WHAT ABOUT ANGUS R. MANN'S TREADS? I AM PARALYZED WITH FEAR BECAUSE I HAVE NOT PLAYED THAT GAME ALL THE WAY THROUGH JUST YET
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Begin is best of class.

Tanks is best of class.

Fleet Defender is arguably best of class, though some would suggest one of Falcon's many iterations.

Minesweeper is the best minesweeper game ever.

Your list sucks, not just because it's a bad list, but because it apparently doesn't exist.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So your list (which I'm now inclined to think we will never, ever see) is a list of 100 GENRES


Seriously you fucking rubes, stop telling me what I said when it's the direct opposite of what I said. Not kidding around. Knock it off, it isn't funny.


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With one game picked from each of them, and since there are nowhere near 100 genres, it's just a bunch of best-of-class picks, and then ANY GAME WHICH WASN'T A FIGHTING/SPACE/WAR/SHOOTING/PUZZLE/ADVENTJKJRJRHRHHAH AHRH KRKLRPEPM JAJKJHEHHEHE E


What? No, I neither said or implied that. Certain genres like "wargame" and "fighting game" and "Flash game" are WORTHLESS and therefore will not be represented.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinback wrote:
Begin is best of class.

Tanks is best of class.


Don't know any game simply called "Tanks" round these parts.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can't wait.

(Even though it appears I'll have to. Forever.)


He's holding off on posting the list until I finish my new game "Pinback Thresher Attack". Yes, you chase Pinback through an (organic) cornfield and try to kill him with a thresher. I'm told it'll be in the top 10!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:
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Begin is best of class.

Tanks is best of class.


Don't know any game simply called "Tanks" round these parts.


What are you talking about? I just gave you the link. Or are you being cute. LROFL "WARGAME CONSTRUCTION SET II: TANKS!"

THANKS!
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chris wrote:
pinback wrote:

I can't wait.

(Even though it appears I'll have to. Forever.)


He's holding off on posting the list until I finish my new game "Pinback Thresher Attack". Yes, you chase Pinback through an (organic) cornfield and try to kill him with a thresher. I'm told it'll be in the top 10!


See, why can't he just stay in the cars/politics base?

Just stay in the cars/politics base, chris. Please. C'mon.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:
Certain genres like "wargame" ... are WORTHLESS


Well, there you have it.

Enjoy the list, everyone.
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